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  crush at work

  by nomoreTRUTHplz in

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  ok advice needed.

  i am currently separated from my husband, have 2 children and we will end up divorcing.

  i have met a man at work that i am getting a crush on.

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  OK advice needed. I am currently separated from my husband, have 2 children and we will end up divorcing. I have met a man at work that I am getting a crush on. Problem: he's 13 yrs. older than me, going through a divorce and has 4 kids.

  I probably shouldn't rush into any relationship, especially with someone also going through a divorce, should I?

  I know on paper the answer seems obvious, but there's just something about him I really like. And how do I know if interest is mutual if I were to decide to persue it?

  Thanks. I had to get that out.
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  How old were you when you were baptized?

  by moomanchu in

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  reading hellriders topic made me wonder about this.. i waited till i was 21 because i was drinking alcohol as a youth and didn't want to get baptized while breaking the law.

  man that is screwed up, seemed reasonable at the time.

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  I was 21. My family was never in the "truth" until my aunt started studying. She set up a study for me when I was 19. I didn't even last a yr. before I was inactive.
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  Hello all; helping those in the org

  by stapler99 in

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  i've been lurking for a while so thought i'd introduce myself.

  i'm in my late teens and left the jws just before i left home.

  i used to know what absolute belief was, but never got baptised because i didn't feel any love for god.

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  Welcome Stapler. Great post!
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  Could we have stumbled onto the reason behind the higher education thing ?

  by Forscher in

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  in the mid 1990s the wtbts backed-off just a little bit on its stance about higher education publically while it was still discouraged unofficially.

  now, all of a sudden they are publically clamping back down.

  and coincidentally they are clamping back down just as ben schroeder was entering his final year or years at columbia law school.

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  As for other witnesses I don't know their reasons for not holding conversation, but when I still went to meetings I didn't talk much because A: these people really don't care and B: fear of mentioning something like a good movie I just saw and uh oh...it's rated R.

  As far as "some" ( this is my personal experience in my congregation, so please don't attack me for generalizing) not being very smart, I often thought this of the ones I knew. We had this one elder ( the one who seemed to care the most and was educated) who would often ask his own impromptu questions which were always met with blank stares followed by answers that completely missed the mark. This always drove me crazy, but I figure it's due to the fact that they are so brainwashed to only give the answers pulled directly from the paragraph that they could no longer think for themselves. Maybe it wasn't so much that they weren't smart as it was that they were just used to giving robotic answers.
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  Is the WTBTS a Bully?

  by Joe Grundy in

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  i am not, and never have been, a jw.

  i spent my career (30 years) fighting bullies.

  is wtbts and its subsidiaries (not talking about individual jws here) a bullying organisation?.

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  Absolutely!!! Everyone is right about how they are like an abusive spouse. As I said in my introduction when I first joined this board I was already in an abusive marriage when I began studying with the Witnesses and I believe that is what made me such a prime target. If I had not been so used to being abused, expecting it, minimizing it, explaining it away and believing I deserved it, I would have seen through their BS sooner. As it was I left my husband and the WTS both.

  Ahhhh. Freedom!
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  Another poll: raised in or came in?

  by under_believer in

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  someone asked a question in the "what generation are you" thread:.

  were you "raised in the truth," or did you "come into the truth?".

  i was raised..

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  came in but didnt stay long at all i felt pressured by family and study conductor to get baptized and within two months of baptism i hardly went to meetings one year after being baptized i went to my last meeting
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  Double Standards with Liberal Witness Friends

  by Fleshybirdfodder in

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  i'm sure this may have been covered, but many ex witnesses i know that have not been formally df'd or dissasociated thenselves still retain some friends among witnesses.

  any friends i have for the most part that are still in the org are really congenial people, until it comes down to any discussion that might teeter on the edge of being remotely deep.

  i've had one friend i hadn't seen in a while who came to visit me tell me right off the bat that we were not to "discuss religion", because i'm "too smart" and he "he won't be able to argue" with me.

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  hi welcome to the board

  i have to say gary took the words out of my mouth also. in my experience i never felt i had any friends with the witnesses. in the beginning i would open up and express opinions with my study conductor (who i was closest to out of them all) and would always get hit with " well the society says...". so eventually i gave up. i think a true friend acknowledges your differences and still respects you and enjoys your company. within the borg there is no freedom of opinion or " independent thinking" therefore no one gets to know who you really are and therefore cannot be conscidered friends.

  i understand in your situation you are no longer technically "in" and so are now free to express yourself, however you know deep down that if you do this "friend" will no longer see you due to "bad association". i think the best thing to do is continue to be there if this person does begin to doubt in the future so you can then support them.

  until then i would have to agree with the others. i would conscider them an acquantance.
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  Newbie question; Why do JW hypocrites PROVE that they're a cult?

  by psycsnacha in

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  2. experiences

  hello, i discovered this site yesterday and have been on it for hours!

  i've been studying with jehovah's witnesses for 4 years and quite frankly love it.

  a bit of background, i am a college educated young man (have a bs in psychology) and am currently a medical student.

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  i can't figure out this quote feature or i'd quote you parlay, but i totally agree with you

  i always felt like a hypocrite being expected to knock on doors and tell people to question their religion and beliefs, yet i was not "allowed" to question my own
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  new girl

  by Ariel84 in

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  nomoreTRUTHplz

  welcome ariel

  i am also a fader (actually inactive for quite some time now) and new to the board also

  look forward to hearing your story
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  are we free?

  by nomoreTRUTHplz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't mean this is as a debate, but merely an observation.

  i have noticed that a lot (not all) of us post and participate in topics that are nothing but arguements and debates over what should be believed.

  i have also been guilty of this, but just began to wonder, are we really free?.

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  I just want to clarify that I have no problem with debating. I meant to say that if we reach the point that we are personally attacking anothers beliefs and think that we are right and must get them to come to our way of thinking then are we free from the society's form of thinking.

  I agree with you looking glass that sometimes there is too much black and white. Not enough gray.

  I understand that part of being free from the society includes being free to voice our individual opinions, however if we feel the need to shove them on others, we are basically where we were as witness, even if those beliefs have changed.

  I too believe that by debating it can open us to thoughts we never had before and conclusions we may not have come to on our own. Really my problem was not with debating but with a certain thread that was a personal attack on some peoples beliefs. It reminded me of exactly what the WTS does by attacking everyone who believes differently than them. Really our freedom means that we have the right to have our own beliefs and freely express them, but if we do it by belittling others we are exactly the same as the WTS. So basically what I meant was if we feel the need to CHANGE others beliefs, then are we free from their mentality that ALL must be united in their beliefs?