Posts by Robert222

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The Whole WTS is a corrupt bunch of lying false prophets!!

by cultswatter in

this topic has been talked about before but it is worth mentioning again.

the revelation grand climax book is currently being studied ar the book studies world wide (4th time) usually on tuesday nights.

at the book study the jws are force fed false doctrine by the wts evil slave class.

Robert222

Arthur, I agree. Pentacost would be a more accurate interpretation of the start of the last days. But i guess that does not sell the books that the WA publishes - which in fact, my family does not realize. What other publishing company forces "members" to go door to door to sell their books?? No wonder the society bans study of any materials other than their own. They completely ignore written human history found in countless books that fill libraries. Are all those books wrong, and WA material correct?

The world "peaceful" prior to 1914? That Revelation Climax book is an embarassment and seems to have been written by persons with a High School education (no offense meant - I was barely able to finish High School let alone attend college - its just that there are not well-educated people at bethel and the blind sheep are following their interpretations).

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The Whole WTS is a corrupt bunch of lying false prophets!!

by cultswatter in

this topic has been talked about before but it is worth mentioning again.

the revelation grand climax book is currently being studied ar the book studies world wide (4th time) usually on tuesday nights.

at the book study the jws are force fed false doctrine by the wts evil slave class.

Robert222

Unless I missed it, I have never heard or read any real human history from the pages of the WA or from the platform.

They talk endlessly about 1914 as a mark of the last days. NO MENTION of the violent, bloody past of the entire world, as stated here in a prior post - the Vikings, Mongols, genocide against Native Americans, etc. And what about the slaughter of catholic priests during the 1700's throughout England (i will have to look up my history) - but you will never hear this from the platform at a KH.

It seems 1914 was the announcement of the first world war. It does not mean there was no violence, war, or disease on a global scale prior to that date. It makes me mental to think about this stuff! Any trying to communicate with an active JW makes me even more insane!!

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The Whole WTS is a corrupt bunch of lying false prophets!!

by cultswatter in

this topic has been talked about before but it is worth mentioning again.

the revelation grand climax book is currently being studied ar the book studies world wide (4th time) usually on tuesday nights.

at the book study the jws are force fed false doctrine by the wts evil slave class.

Robert222

I think i can speak from experience. No JW knows what the 7 trumpets mean, and that is related to those 7 assemblies. Whenever I try and tell my sister these things, her viewpoint is that the men in the 1920's, 30's, 40's were wrong, but the governing body today is right. Armageddon is right around the corner, and we will all see it. The JW actually prefer to be dellusional, and feel they have special insight. Well after many yrs, I had to realize no one has special knowledge of the scriptures. They should be taken in context and they are stories about a certain period in time. the end - fine, it tells us of a world that is violent. As we know the world has always been violent. Our times are not any better or worse than two thousand yrs ago we just have more people.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-8-07 WT Study (Obedient Children)

by blondie in

wt child abuse www.silentlambs.org.

"children, be obedient to your parents".

they soon understand that they are there to listen and to learn.prov.

Robert222

How come JWs never see that beating god into children does not work? Are they back in the 16th or 17th century? Adults can hardly sit for two hours and listen to boring speakers, how can children be expected to sit there and listen to these things? I can just imagine all the truly dumb parents sitting there tomorrow thinking this is a great article. I also agree with Gill's comments. The bigger picture is obey the society or else. Do not question the GB as we cannot possibly understand their great meanings of the bible since we are all children in the congregation. And it means our life to blindly obey the parent organization. I was beaten by my JW parents, and my father was an elder. I no longer speak to them, they were, and are, awful people.

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Memorial 2007

by Ténébreux in

well i just got back from the memorial, after being dragged along somewhat reluctantly.

during the talk, one statement in particular caught my attention which i hadn't heard previously.

the speaker was explaining why probably no-one there should be partaking of the matzo and wine, because on the night of the passover jesus began selecting his 144000 heavenly co-rulers starting with the 11 apostles who were present - and that from then on, most of jesus' other followers just observed and did not partake, recognizing that they were of the earthly class.

Robert222

So, is there a biblical record of the memorial celebration after the death of christ? Was it supposed to be only a command to the apostles of christ at the last supper? The memorial would end with their reunion with christ in heaven?

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-1-07 WT Study (RESPECT HUSBAND)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 04-01-07 wt study (february 15, 2007, pages 18-22)(respect husband).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

Robert222

Regarding Gill's statement - "I believe that this article is Watchtower 'double speak' at its most psychological and complex level." I think that's probably the answer I was looking for. I wasn't confused by Blondie's analysis, I was confused by the actual WA article. The society literature is always bizarre and insulting.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-1-07 WT Study (RESPECT HUSBAND)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 04-01-07 wt study (february 15, 2007, pages 18-22)(respect husband).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

Robert222

I could be missing something here, but i don't remember the grounds for divorce mentioned in last week's article about husbands, and this week's article about wives. Almost all couples I have known as JWs are now divorced.

And, last week's article said that men can tell women how to dress, so forth. This week's article tells women that your husband can tell you what to do and women have to accept it. Aren't both of these articles about how women are in total subjection to their husbands, even if the husband is abusive?

AND shouldn't the articles preceding the memorial actually be about JESUS and his life and death?? Not about wives being in subjection to their husbands?? I am confused by this.

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SCANNED MEMORIAL INVITATION

by Mary in

jw
friends

someone was asking for a scanned copy of the memorial invitation, so here it is, front and back.

i've uh, revized it a bit to say what they really mean.

please feel free to distribute to anyone you think might be interested in attending.

Robert222

I can't express how true your version of the tract is!! You hit the nail on the head and managed to precisely sum up the WA organization!! That is their true message to people. Whatever happened to me (that I can't yet identify) when the fog lifted, this is what I saw - your words exactly. It's the governing body that will get you eternal life, its owning a four-door car that shows you are a christian, a riot.

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MORE DRIVEL FROM APRIL 15TH WT STUDY.....

by Mary in

i'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but on pages 28-29 of the april 15, 2007 watchtower study on let the congregation be built up, they seem to be trying to justify the notion that a person cannot be 'saved' if they leave the organization, even if they have just cause:.

paragraph 15 reads" in modern times, some have ceased associating with the local congregation, feeling that they will serve god on their own.

they may say that it is because their feelings were hurt, they think a wrong is not being corrected, or they cannot accept some teaching.

Robert222

I totally agree with your comments. I appreciate you posting them here for all of us to read. This is one of the reasons for me to finally completely stop attending those awful meetings. They bear no resemblance to the first century congregation. The more you read the bible, the more you get frustrated and angered by JW teachings, rules, endless regulations having nothing to do with actually worshipping god. I see more now how its recruitment, money, control over people, that's JW in a nutshell. They want you at their meetings to isolate you from your friends, family, co-workers. Yes, I used to listen to everything, Result? I have no education, no life. I am slowly getting back my relationships with family members that forgave me for shunning them, and building friendships outside the cult.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 2-4-07 WT Study (Justice)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 02-04-07 wt study (december 15, 2006, pages 25-29)(justice be done).

when in particular will god "cause justice to be done"?.

(luke 18:1; 2 thessalonians 3:13) granted, the coming of "the great day of jehovah" does not depend on our prayers--it will come whether we pray for it or not.

Robert222

I look forward to Blondie's summary each week. I've learned more here than from any meeting at the KH. The opening paragraph, and throughout, is insulting to the reader. Its my fault that I expected the end to come, its my fault that I stopped attending empty, useless meetings, it must mean I am returning to my former wicked ways. Well guess what "brothers" I was raised a JW, my parents abused me mentally and physically if I even thought of having any independence. I am finally rejecting a corporation that has no resemblance to the early christian congregation. I do hope this WA insults more people, and finally wakes them up to the empty, hateful organization they are so loyal to.