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  Sheeple

  by Butters in

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  butters here,.

  just wanted to ask a few questions about free thinkers.

  how many of you feel you are truly a free thinker, not involved in some sort of group that has capes and drapes, or a "label"?

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  The Time Bomb In Every Witness Congregation

  by metatron in

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  the recent court defeat of the watchtower emphasizes a point i have repeatedly dwelt on:.

  the confidential judicial files in each congregation of jehovah's witnesses are a potential "bomb"!.

  they often make for interesting reading, if you have access to them.

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  I agree with you. Yet when I heard about this court decision I thought it would not have taken the wt legal department by surprise. If the wts can operate and expand under ban, the society will find a way to deal with this. Though, it makes things more difficult. The elders will do anything the wts asks of them, like destroying records of paedophiles when appointed as elders. I remember my father telling me after his first elder schooling, "When the gb tells me to jump, I jump and don’t ask questions. We are fighting Satan and the demons!"

  Well, I’m looking forward to any "exposing explosions".

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  michael/jesus

  by gspradling in

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  i know this has been discussed until you are all probably sick of it, but i have been trying to find a watchtower quote on exactly how michael became jesus.

  i have googled it and checked my books throughly without any success.

  thanks in advance

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  THX Butters,

  I somehow expected it to be one special human person "one god, one husband, one wife" Matthew 19:4-6, which would have been more interesting for me.

  So the millions of saved will not be angels, since married to Jesus. Right? Who are the ones Luke spoke about in 20:36, the ones resurrected equal to angels?

  Sorry we miss each other due to time difference. Although I often work nights. fts
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  michael/jesus

  by gspradling in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this has been discussed until you are all probably sick of it, but i have been trying to find a watchtower quote on exactly how michael became jesus.

  i have googled it and checked my books throughly without any success.

  thanks in advance

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  7. Angels do not marry, not are given in marriage. (Matthew 22:30). Messiah has a bride (Revelation 21:9)

  I don’t want to hijack this thread, but Butters who do you understand the bride of Christ to be?

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  What are the demonic practices of JW

  by brunhilda40 in

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  i am just curious, what practices do jw have that would be considered demonic?

  i am not clear about what the memorial service would entail that would be demonic?

  oviously i am not a jw, however a good friend (or ex friend not sure of the status at this point) is a jw.

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  freetosee

  Other than ritual murder by refusing their members to take lifesaving blood transfusions, of course. I would say that is a demonic practice. There is a lot that is "demonic" about the jws, if you believe in God and the devil and all that...but they don`t have pentagrams and goats heads at the KH, no...that would have been scandalous. Gossip would have spread like a wildfire.

  LOL Hellrider!

  

  All the best Brunhilda. I hope your friend will pick up contact with again. She will find out what a good friend you really are.

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  What are the demonic practices of JW

  by brunhilda40 in

  1. jw
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  i am just curious, what practices do jw have that would be considered demonic?

  i am not clear about what the memorial service would entail that would be demonic?

  oviously i am not a jw, however a good friend (or ex friend not sure of the status at this point) is a jw.

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  freetosee

  Blondie,

  I wrote "in the occult there are rituals…" not the JW’s. The passing of the bread and wine and not partaking of it is what was mentioned to be similar to the occult or demon worshipers. Passing the wine, but no one drinking it, that is what is similar, not the sitting in circles of five (pentagram).

  I am not defending this claim, I only learned it here on JWD. JW's do not have demon practices.

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  What are the demonic practices of JW

  by brunhilda40 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am just curious, what practices do jw have that would be considered demonic?

  i am not clear about what the memorial service would entail that would be demonic?

  oviously i am not a jw, however a good friend (or ex friend not sure of the status at this point) is a jw.

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  Blondie,

  in the occult there are rituals, might even be on Nissan 14 I’m not sure, where they sit in circles of five and pass the bread and wine to each other without partaking. This was mentioned as a similarity to the JW memorial of Christ. This is out of memory, but I do remember reading it here not to long ago.

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  What are the demonic practices of JW

  by brunhilda40 in

  1. jw
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  i am just curious, what practices do jw have that would be considered demonic?

  i am not clear about what the memorial service would entail that would be demonic?

  oviously i am not a jw, however a good friend (or ex friend not sure of the status at this point) is a jw.

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  freetosee

  I don’t remember who posted it, but I do remember that that was the comparison made.
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  What are the demonic practices of JW

  by brunhilda40 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am just curious, what practices do jw have that would be considered demonic?

  i am not clear about what the memorial service would entail that would be demonic?

  oviously i am not a jw, however a good friend (or ex friend not sure of the status at this point) is a jw.

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  freetosee

  I wouldn’t say jws have demonic practices.

  Because the jws have two classes of Christians, the "little flock" of 144 000 members who go to heaven and the all the other faithful ones who remain on earth to live forever.

  At the memorial service only member of the little flock partake of the emblems. Which means that in most congregations of jws the bread and wine is passed from one person to the next, yet no one partakes. The memorial service reminds one of the occult, since the not partaking of the emblems, bread and wine, is similar to the rejection of Jesus . That's all.

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  Manual Notes in Pay Attention book

  by GermanXJW in

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  2. child-abuse

  i remember that someone (richie rich?

  ) scanned some pages of a used pay attention book that included manual notes about destroying all documents if a former molestor gets appointed as a servant.

  is this only in my imagination or has somebody saved this to his/her local drive?

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  freetosee

  Yes, download here:
  http://www.reexamine.info/90s/flock_book_with_notes_small.pdf ( 9 MB)
  http://www.reexamine.info/90s/flock_book_with_notes_large.pdf (53 MB)

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  Edit: It has handwritten notes of a presiding overseer with instructions from the WTS to destroy child molester files or records if the molester is appointed as elder, on page 74.