It really was quite bizarre. First off, the elder was there to work, when did he get time to watch home videos (assuming we don't believe his story about Jehovah leading him)? I saw the tape and it was basically a five second clip amongst hours of boring beach scenes and weird insect shots, chances are he would have to be watching it for some time. My friend was as good a dub as could be (he has since left), and was terrified of the Elders so he took everything they handed them without protest. As I distance myself from this cult remembering Gestapo-like mentality that the elders had (in our congregation anyway) really makes me wonder why I ever allowed myself to attribute authority to them. These guys would actually follow people, and not always surreptitiously! Another friend of mine who was a few years older than I and going through some difficult personal issues (he wasn't in good standing at the time, just stepped down from being an MS) asked me during a meeting if I could leave for a few minutes and talk. I obviously agreed and we left during the meeting and drove to MacDonald's for a bite from the pick up window. Low and behold two Elders followed us, pulled up beside us, rolled down the window and demanded I get in the car with them. I suppose because I was only 17 they felt it was their duty to protect me from my friend's evil influence and return me to the meeting. I refused to oblige and they took off in a huff. That was the first time I ever stood up to the elders and I was TERRIFIED. Needless to say when I returned to the hall I was raked over the coals in the B school.
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"It was Jehovah leading me..."
by Fleshybirdfodder inmy best friend and his wife had hired an elder to do some refinishing work in their basement.
they kept their tv and vhs tapes (pre dvd era) down there.
it seems dear brother was a bit of a nosy fella, so he just happened to pop in one of their home movies of a trip they had taken to cuba and found some footage of my friend smoking a cigar.
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Guess what I found?
by Nosferatu insing praises to jehovah on cd!!!
i paid $1.99 for each 4 cd set.
hooray!!!!
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Did you get the one with the vocals on it, or just the instrumentals?
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My father read the YY chapter on sex aloud to me and that was the sum of my birds and bees talk. He left me to read the part about masturbation on my own. I distinctly remember the part about how some youths, "get lonely in their sex-play" and that leads to circle jerking and homosexuality.
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What are your most hated JW words and phrases?
by Low-Key Lysmith inmine are, in no particular order:.
"the friends".
"glean".
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Integrity
Worldlings (always made me think of little green men for some reason)
Slovenly (used to describe how Worldlings dressed)
E'en tho' foes 'gainst you arise
Are we not? (Preceeding anything telling us how appreciative we should be)
Loyal submission
ahh the intricacies of dubspeak
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Complete Amnesty
by zarco inwould you come back the organization if all disfellowshipping/other punitive actions were completely reversed?
if you came back would it be for association with friends and family only?
what policy and behavioral changes would the society need to make to "entice" you back?.
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For me to go back meetings and service would have to be optional. Oh, and instead of boring talks, there would have to be ping pong tournaments. And they'd have to turn the literature counter into a bar and serve free drinks. The brother in charge of sound would be required to play CDs I wanted to hear. A disco ball might be nice too. And some pony rides for the kids. Yeah, I might consider it then.
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Ridiculous teenager counselled at Assembly.
by Duncan inthe ridiculous teenager is me.
this story takes me back to 1969, when i was 15 years old.
we were attending the international assembly at wembley stadium, near london, the only time, i think, that wembley was ever used for an assembly.. if youve ever read any of the stories i posted on jwd over the years, youll know that i was never one of those kids growing up in the truth who always had doubts about it or was unhappy and miserable with the religion, just waiting for the chance to get out.
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LOL fi!
We used to sing the verses backwards from end to beginning and try to make it synch up.
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"It was Jehovah leading me..."
by Fleshybirdfodder inmy best friend and his wife had hired an elder to do some refinishing work in their basement.
they kept their tv and vhs tapes (pre dvd era) down there.
it seems dear brother was a bit of a nosy fella, so he just happened to pop in one of their home movies of a trip they had taken to cuba and found some footage of my friend smoking a cigar.
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My best friend and his wife had hired an elder to do some refinishing work in their basement. They kept their TV and VHS tapes (pre DVD era) down there. It seems dear brother was a bit of a nosy fella, so he just happened to pop in one of their home movies of a trip they had taken to Cuba and found some footage of my friend smoking a cigar. The guy had the audacity to go to his fellow elders about it and my friend was reproved and removed as an MS (probably the best thing that could have happened to him but that's besides the point.) The elder's comment, "I know it was Jehovah leading me because I would never normally go through anyone's private videos. Something just made me grab that tape." Nosy elder was praised because it was so obvious to the commitee that it was holy spirit and not the desire to ogle my friend's wife in a bikini that led him to watch the tape. Now that is a get out of jail free card if ever there was one. Kind of a Dub version of "the devil made me do it."
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Ridiculous teenager counselled at Assembly.
by Duncan inthe ridiculous teenager is me.
this story takes me back to 1969, when i was 15 years old.
we were attending the international assembly at wembley stadium, near london, the only time, i think, that wembley was ever used for an assembly.. if youve ever read any of the stories i posted on jwd over the years, youll know that i was never one of those kids growing up in the truth who always had doubts about it or was unhappy and miserable with the religion, just waiting for the chance to get out.
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That was hilarious! Well written. At the assemblies my mother used to put the songbook to her heart during kingdom melodies she knew, and if it was ever Make the Truth Your Own, she would shed tears of joy. It annoyed the crap out of us kids, so we would mimic her, but she was too busy hugging her songbook to notice.
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Watchtower Now Allows Gay Marriage!
by AlmostAtheist inthe lead article on the watchtower home page is about gay marriage and how to make it acceptable to jehovah: http://www.watchtower.org.
but unfortunately, they still aren't handing out tickets to the corporate jet.
ah well, "glass half-full" i suppose... .
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Peeing my pants from laughing too hard! Awesome work.
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Name 3 reasons for your exit or near exit from the WTS.....................
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy main 3 reasons for my near exit from the wts are:.
1. armageddon is always around the corner.lies and false promises.
( i'm still waiting ).
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1. Being counselled about the dangers of my "secular" books on Christianity that were noticed on my bookshelf.
2. Seeing my wife have a breakdown because of the extreme elitism and lack of love among her pioneer partners
3. Realising all the lies I had been fed about my Da'd sister
I could go on and on...
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