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  Run in with cousin over the letter I sent the family

  by dawg in

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  as many of you are aware, i've been writing letters to many in my family telling them where i disagree with the wt; imagine how surprised i was when my cousin invited me to his kid's graduation knowing that there were sure to be many witnesses there who i assumed whoud be in the mood for confrontation.

  of course i went, as i'm trying a new policy of not backing down from the witnesses; using reverse psycology to try and get them ashamed of being witnesses instead of them trying to make me feel bad about my disssent.

  after the graduation, my older cousin, who's much like a real brother to me said that we needed to talk.

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  the JW's had already admited their mistakes and that was enough...

  Well that's the point, isn't it? How many JWs are even aware of these things? And where have "the JWs admitted their mistakes?" In the 1975 debacle they said "It is to be regretted" and really blamed the rank and file... When did they ever apologize for the pyrimidology? If they did that, they would have to admit that the year 1914 came from false information.

  But, I sympathize. You did back him into a corner. Not too long ago, I would have defended, also. Maybe you have given him food for thought. At least he did not shun you....
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  Fader's update on the wife.

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  so my wife is still very close to me.

  she acts like she hopes i come back to the meetings but.

  she doesn't really expect it.

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  Glad you are keeping your sense of humor and are being patient with the wife. Just keep giving her alot of attention like you are doing and be yourself. Obviously you enjoy one another's company. That is the important thing, and probably why she is missing meetings. She so wants to be with you.

  Glad you are still here and did not fade to nothing.....
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  Fader's update on the wife.

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  so my wife is still very close to me.

  she acts like she hopes i come back to the meetings but.

  she doesn't really expect it.

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  Has the person faded to nothing??????
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  CREATURES DISCOVERED ON THE MOON!!

  by Terry in

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  british astronomer sir john hershel, it was reported in the chicago sun times, made some extraordinary discoveries on the moon!.

  british astronomer sir john hershel.

  the year was 1835. this famous astronmer reportedly had discovered life on our moon.. .

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  From 50,000 to over 100,000 people were in some ways persuaded, disturbed and provoked into life changing decisions as a result of Miller's published opinions and publicly preached views

  Probably around the same percentage of people in view of the population at the time have been "persuaded, disturbed, and provoked into life changing decisions" as a result of the WTS's sensational claims.

  Looks like Russell created an amalgam of all the stupid beliefs of the pyramid guy, and Miller. I wonder why he didn't also try to make everyone believe that the creatures on the moon were real.

  He probably could have convinced many.
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  Another Watchtower Flip Flop.

  by gumby in

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  2. beliefs

  it's no wonder so many witnesses need medication since they must rely on the faithful slave do make decisions and do their thinking for them.. evidently jehovah changed his mind once again in the articles shown below and thanks to the fds they let the publishers in on it.. the watchtower march 1, 2002 p.30 .

  is it correct to say that jehovah's mercy tempers his justice?.

  although this expression has been used, it is best to avoid it since it seems to imply that jehovah's mercy softens or restrains his justice, as if his mercy were superior to the harsher quality of justice.

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  Although this expression has been used, it is best to avoid it since it seems to imply that Jehovah's mercy softens or restrains his justice, as if his mercy were superior to the harsher quality of justice. This is not correct.

  I was so mad about the pinata thing that I went back and read your post again.

  Now this quote from the WT is steaming me. "This expression has been used"--- by whom? The WT!!!! Did they admit this? NO!!

  Now it should be "avoided" because "This is not correct." But you will not see the WTS admitting that they were the ones who "implied" incorrect teachings, nor are they apologizing.

  The inference is that the rank and file were incorrect......once again......

  It is a wonder that any witness would feel qualified to go from door to door . How can they keep up with the ever changing "new light?"

  Thanks, gumby, for bringing this to our attention, even though it did raise my blood pressure!
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  Desperate and unable to forget

  by Shadowland in

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  am a newbie here so please excuse any lack of decorum, just need to vent to people that understand.. a quick rundown: dad was an elder since i was about 3, and from the time i was 5 i wondered why he was so nice to everyone else and an arsehole to his family.

  dad remained an elder until 'deposed' when i was 13, after which my 17 yr old sister 'lost faith' (although, knowing her, it happened a lot sooner).

  sis left home, i got seriously depressed and tried to kill myself, after which nothing was ever the same with either my family or the 'truth' (the 'lie' is more like it).

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  Quandry

  Welcome to the forum.

  We'd all like to forget a lot of things, but we're intelligent people with good memories. That's why this forum exists... to help when the memories become overwhelming.

  You'll find a listening ear here.
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  Another Watchtower Flip Flop.

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's no wonder so many witnesses need medication since they must rely on the faithful slave do make decisions and do their thinking for them.. evidently jehovah changed his mind once again in the articles shown below and thanks to the fds they let the publishers in on it.. the watchtower march 1, 2002 p.30 .

  is it correct to say that jehovah's mercy tempers his justice?.

  although this expression has been used, it is best to avoid it since it seems to imply that jehovah's mercy softens or restrains his justice, as if his mercy were superior to the harsher quality of justice.

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  *** 'Awake!' 2003 9/22 p.24 The Piñata—An Ancient Tradition***

  A main concern is, not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today in your area. Understandably, opinions may vary from one place to another. Hence, it is wise to avoid turning such matters into big issues. The Bible says: "Let each one keep seeking, not his own advantage, but that of the other person."—1 Corinthians 10:24.

  I made such a big deal out of not letting my child anywhere near pinatas when she was in school. Many Spanish children were at her school and they had them for parties, but being a rabid dub, she was allowed nowhere near them. After all they were unclean and associated with holidays!!!

  When this article came out, I was livid. Now all the things I'd said about pinatas was viewed as ridiculous, because now, of course, the practice is not viewed religiously.

  What about Christmas and birthdays? Especially birthdays. Who in the world but JWs makes an issue out of them or connects them with any sort of false worship?

  FLIP FLOP, FLIP FLOP!!!!!
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  My first and hopefully last vent on JWD

  by nvrgnbk in

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  i was talking to my trying-to-exit-the-cult fraternal twin brother yesterday about life, the jehovah's witness cult, and our jw parents.. he repeated, calmly and succintly, that he hates our parents.

  i could not argue with him.

  i used to, being a parent myself.

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  Quandry

  Don't sweat the vent. That's what we're here for.

  Nice to hear your brother is of like mind. You and he can support each other. Will he join us here on the forum?
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  Why do people hide on this site?

  by Adolfius in

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  something i've noticed when reading the various threads on this site, is that so many people seem to be afraid.

  their scared of being disfellowshipped, scared of being shunned, scared of not being accepted by the congregation, scared that people may find out they don't believe anymore, scared if anyone was to find out they use this site.

  there is advice for people on how to avoid being disfellowshipped, if they may have "said too much" about their thoughts, or how to fade without being noticed.. i don't understand this.

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  I guess I'm quite lucky that I walked away as a teenager, and it's kind of just been accepted as if I was never really "in".

  Well, then, that's it. You've never been pulled into a back room and told that almighty God views you as a worthless piece of filth. You have escaped the unspeakable hurt and humiliation that has been thrust upon many on this forum.

  You've never been looked at by others as a juicy piece of buzzard bait. Completely shunned by those you love.

  I am not df'd, but my daughter was, and treated by a JC at a very tender age (16) as though she was less than worthless in their eyes, accused of fornication for two and one half hours when she did not do this, was df'd with no explanation, and was at a point of suicide for two years.

  My husband and I would not accept this unchristian treatment and so are unofficially shunned. So be it.

  This group presumes to give judgements from God, can manipulate, rip apart families, and reduce human beings to nothing with the piercings of their sharp tongues, and disfellowshipping rulings.

  I cannot sit in the place of others. I would never want them to have the added burden of guilt because they do not feel that they can just come out in the open instead of fading or hiding. I just hope they gain comfort from being here and support in whatever their decision is.
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  My Story

  by Missanna in

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  2. experiences

  ok for some reason i can't sleep tonight and feel like writing so i'm gonna tell my story of how i got to this point.

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  ahhhhm.

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  Quandry

  Missana

  Thanks for sharing your story. It is so wonderful that you now have a husband and a life away from the abuse.

  Isn't it interesting when you read many of the stories here that those who pioneered did so to try to mask horrific pain of the real life they had to lead at home and were desperately trying to make themselves feel validated by God when others would tell them that they were worthless?

  Isn't it interesting also that your father seems to be stricken with maladies common to JWs. So much pressure to make the family appear righteous in the eyes of the congregation. How would he be viewed as an elder if he could not maintain control at home and have his family serve as an example for all?

  I hope that you will take advantage of your youth and get an education.(your hubbie also) This will serve not only to help you support yourself, but to boost your self esteem. It will also keep your mind occupied so that hopefully the trauma of your childhood will be lessened.

  So glad you have found this forum and those with similar backgrounds.

  You obviously have great worth and much to add to this group. Glad to have you!!!