*** jv chap.
8 p. 104 declaring the good news without letup (1942-1975) ***.
the witnesses had long shared the belief that the thousand year reign of christ would follow after 6,000 years of human history.
Certainly, this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end."
So they were agreeing with what actions Brothers asnd Sisters were taking!
They could have put a caution in here; BUT they didn't, they were sure of 1975!
I was in the Org. and have the KM,s with this in.
Many families gave up everything to pioneer etc. and they were encouraged to do so.
"when bread becomes a dollar a loaf, it will be too expensive to live!".
anyone remember that being said by the jws?.
i am wondering if was a quote from an article or book, or something the jws came up with on their own?.
Interestingly it's in a 1975 magazine!
Watchtower 1975
January 1st p.3 Why Is It So Hard to Make a Living?For others, though, the problem is much worse. The New York Times reported: "No matter how severe food price inflation has been in the United States, it has been mild by comparison with many other countries where prices have doubled and tripled in recent months. For many poor people the price of a single meal now exceeds aday’s income."—(Italics ours)
This condition is a striking fulfillment of Bible prophecies regarding our time, one of which foretold: "A whole day’s wage for a loaf of bread." (Rev. 6:6, Weymouth) High prices, food shortages, disease epidemics, world wars and other unprecedented troubles in our generation were prophesied to result from the ride of the ‘horsemen of the apocalypse,’ all identifying our time as the foretold "last days."—Rev. chap. 6; 2 Tim. 3:1-5.
i have the new manual and other two letters (intro and spiral binding) but would like the one about destroying the old book as well, ...mainly as it helps highlight the level of information control.
i've looked back several weeks of pages here and cant see it.. im going to be giving this little lot to my jw family members as and when the opportunity presents itself.. (which may well be today as some are coming over lol, but will choose my timing or not bother if it seems a likely fail.).
cheers.
are the rank and file generally catching wind of the f bomb (you know -- the flock book's leaking and world wide distribution)?
what have you heard?.
There has been 24,000 + downloads of "the book" from just one site,
105,022 on another, my guess is there are more downloads than copies printed!
Plenty of people know, but whether the r&f know is another matter!
found these on perimeno's site.. .
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bangalore.
But this is the book that started off the whole 1975 thing.
BluesBrother: Sorry I can't agree!
This is the book that started it all:
1963 "All Scripture Is Inspired of God and Beneficial" was the original mention of 1975,
on pages 286-287, in the 1990 reprint a small note was added about the time of Eve's making.
From this my wife and others in the cong during 1963-64 were sure 1975 was the time of Armageddon.
Some good info here:
http://www.truthnet.org/pdf/Cults/WatchtowerFalseProphecies.pdf
holy cow, i remember reading this catalog back in the early 80's, i never thought someone going out in service would need all this stuff !.
i was amazed at page #3,,,,,, making a magazine presentation .
"lay the magazine on top of the bible" (shows where the witness loyalty really is).. .
What does the blurb at the bottom of the page mean? "this catalog should not be used at the kingdom hall."
NO business can be conducted in the Kingdom Hall;
only outside in the car park!
while an earlier version was made available privately the time has come to 'progress'.. conscious class and ex both strongly adhere to not keeping things 'hidden' in regards to wts publications, talks and documents which are circulated in order to maintain it's position.. another wonderful poster (who has yet to give me permission to name) has 'reduced' and 'bookmarked' the first full copy link i was given by our 'winner'.. in this newest and final 'clean' copy link you find two other additions besides the reduction/bookmarking..... the brother who uploaded the entire book wishes all to have a copy that includes both boe ltrs (pre-ks ltr and spiral binding ltr).
also another development has occurred.... the brother responsible for this book being brought into light and put forth for public consumption and discussion has requested i post this letter explaining to 'us' (jwn posters/global audience) and 'them' (wts of penn & ny).. i ask you give attention to his words/ experiences as he is representative of a newly emerging demographic within the conscious class.
so without further ado i give you his link and the 'stage' if you will to 'brother johnson'....... [link removed - contact ynot for further info - lady lee].
bttt
i'm familiar with the two witness rule and just read that it still stands in the new elder's book.. .
if a child accuses someone of sexual abuse:.
1. call the branch.
Here is their present policy:
http://www.jw-media.org/aboutjw/article23.htm
I can't quote, as it's copyrighted!
i'm would like to get the new elders manual as well as the pioneer-book (2004).
interesed in what they actually have to say.. and if everything in them can be found in the literature, why are they so secret?.
That is the reason they had to publish a new edition,
there was no more room in the old one to write any more notes in!
Not only wide margins in the new one, there are a few blank pages!
yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).. unfortunately, i had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when i checked) and i'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry).
i'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.. here are the discussions on the book:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.
Lady Lee; I know the feeling!
