I think C.T. Russell would cringe at what has become of what he started. I think he was a product of the "Age Of Enlightenment", and was promoting truth, as he saw it. I think he would promote "independant thinking", unlike the modern day "governing body".
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Was C.T. Russell all that bad?
by Sad emo indisclaimer: this is a question purely about russell's bible teaching, not about his personal life, whether he was a freemason or whatever else.. ok, russell set himself up as a bible teacher, a lot of his theology was borrowed from groups such as the adventists and certain pyramidologists of his time, and i agree that a lot of his conclusions were plain crazy.
my question is this - was the movement he started simply another misguided christian denomination with genuine motives as opposed to what happened after rutherford took over and added all the dogmas?
does russell bear any of the blame for what the wbts has become?.
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The God of death...
by zeroday ini could no sooner kill a dog much less a human but the god of death yearns to destroy 6 billion plus humans to uphold his sovernity.
the omnipotent god, sees all, knows all just to watch his creation live and die and yet does nothing to stop it.
would you, stop it if you could.
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catbert
When I was a kid, I used to build model planes, then stuff them with match heads and watch them burn. I was created "In Gods Image".
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Vegetarian Dinosaurs
by catbert indo jw's believe the animal population was largly vegetarian prior to the flood, or that only humans were vegetarians prior to the flood?
i saw a pdf of a recent awake magazine that seemed to make a point of mentioning dinosaurs eating grass.
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catbert
Do JW's believe the animal population was largly vegetarian prior to the flood, or that only humans were vegetarians prior to the flood? I saw a PDF of a recent Awake magazine that seemed to make a point of mentioning Dinosaurs eating grass.
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I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT DOES duh stand for?
by inlove in"as mentioned in last nights meeting, keep knocking, keep searching for it (the truth.. little-by-little, jehovah will reveal it to those with the right heart.
condition at the proper time.as mentioned in.
i have no need nor the desire tolook anywhere else for the truth or consider any other view points, be it letters from people that "claim" to be witnesses or from web sites and the.
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catbert
Gordon,
Long diatribe there, but not useful in my opinion.
You can't present what you said to a JW and expect to get anywhere.
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I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT DOES duh stand for?
by inlove in"as mentioned in last nights meeting, keep knocking, keep searching for it (the truth.. little-by-little, jehovah will reveal it to those with the right heart.
condition at the proper time.as mentioned in.
i have no need nor the desire tolook anywhere else for the truth or consider any other view points, be it letters from people that "claim" to be witnesses or from web sites and the.
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catbert
Have him explain these scriptures:
Isaiah 44:6
“This is what Jehovah has said, the King of Israel and the Repurchaser of him, Jehovah of armies, ‘I am the first and I am the last, and besides me there is no God.
John 1:1
In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
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My wife I love her but?
by skyking ini just posted this on another thread and decided to post my own thread about it.. a few posters here that know me personally know about my amazing wife.
i had a very hard time accepting what i have learned about her.
she has a gift she has kept from the world until she was in her 30's.
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catbert
I think "The Global Conciousness" project may be relevant to this conversation: http://noosphere.princeton.edu/
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Resources will be gone by 2050
by oldflame inbeijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.
populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".
rising population.
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catbert
Tigerman, I absolutely agree with you. And I want to know how we have come to this point where we feel this way. You are an animal lover, as am I. If the God that we learned about has his way, we will have to accept the death of the animals we love. Even if the story of the "new system" we learned about is true, and the Lion that lays down with the lamb has a peaceful life, he will die, and will we not feel pain when he is gone? I just don't see how this "the former things have passed away" helps animal lovers. The more I analyze, the more I see "survival of the fittest".
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Resources will be gone by 2050
by oldflame inbeijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.
populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".
rising population.
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catbert
Tigerman and Daniel, I will agree the last 150 years have been an interesting "blip" on the course of history. I chose to be facinated by it.
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Resources will be gone by 2050
by oldflame inbeijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.
populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".
rising population.
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catbert
Tigerman, your post indicates an empty planet (universe?), void of all life I believe. I don't see that happening. Each passing year and century man becomes more civilized. As man becomes more knowledgable, and continues to fear his ultimate demise, he (she) becomes more astute at solving the big problems. Every generation throughout history has felt the end was near, and the problems insurmountable. And yet, some life goes on, some does not.
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Resources will be gone by 2050
by oldflame inbeijing (reuters) - humans are stripping nature at an unprecedented rate and will need two planets' worth of natural resources every year by 2050 on current trends, the wwf conservation group said on tuesday.
populations of many species, from fish to mammals, had fallen by about a third from 1970 to 2003 largely because of human threats such as pollution, clearing of forests and overfishing, the group also said in a two-yearly report.. "for more than 20 years we have exceeded the earth's ability to support a consumptive lifestyle that is unsustainable and we cannot afford to continue down this path," wwf director-general james leape said, launching the wwf's 2006 living planet report.. "if everyone around the world lived as those in america, we would need five planets to support us," leape, an american, said in beijing.. people in the united arab emirates were placing most stress per capita on the planet ahead of those in the united states, finland and canada, the report said.. australia was also living well beyond its means.. the average australian used 6.6 "global" hectares to support their developed lifestyle, ranking behind the united states and canada, but ahead of the united kingdom, russia, china and japan.. "if the rest of the world led the kind of lifestyles we do here in australia, we would require three-and-a-half planets to provide the resources we use and to absorb the waste," said greg bourne, wwf-australia chief executive officer.. everyone would have to change lifestyles -- cutting use of fossil fuels and improving management of everything from farming to fisheries.. "as countries work to improve the well-being of their people, they risk bypassing the goal of sustainability," said leape, speaking in an energy-efficient building at beijing's prestigous tsinghua university.. "it is inevitable that this disconnect will eventually limit the abilities of poor countries to develop and rich countries to maintain their prosperity," he added.. the report said humans' "ecological footprint" -- the demand people place on the natural world -- was 25 percent greater than the planet's annual ability to provide everything from food to energy and recycle all human waste in 2003.. in the previous report, the 2001 overshoot was 21 percent.. "on current projections humanity, will be using two planets' worth of natural resources by 2050 -- if those resources have not run out by then," the latest report said.. "people are turning resources into waste faster than nature can turn waste back into resources.".
rising population.
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catbert
Oldflame, watch any show that reveals animals in the wild. My wife is an animal lover and can not watch these shows. People portray humans as being the disease of the planet. Humans are obviously the most civilized creatures on the planet. And they will survive and strive, some human groups will not. There will be extinctions. It is as it has always been.