Posts by Free
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28Who's to say Jesus has "approved" the FDS and "appointed them..."
by Theocrat in"...over his belongings" ???.
i think the entire system of witness beliefs hinge on this issue: is the governing body the mouthpiece that jehovah is using to lead faithful ones on earth?.
it seems jw's just assume that jesus did inspect them and did appoint them over his belongings.
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How about this one ?
by Free ini was visiting some friends from out of state that had moved there from my hometown.
when one of the friends that was from their cong.
( pioneer ) said they wanted to get their time started before are 4 hour trip to a national park walked into a supermarket to hand out a tract.
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I was visiting some friends from out of state that had moved there from my hometown. When one of the friends that was from their cong.( pioneer ) said they wanted to get their time started before are 4 hour trip to a national park walked into a supermarket to hand out a tract. Troughout the day placing a couple more. Our hole trip took about 12hours and the whole way I knew they where counting time for what they had said in the morning as well as some of the others that had placed tracts that day who were with me. That's how they get their hours ? you have got to be kidding me. I was still new as far as service went. Does anyone else have an experience like mine ?
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"No need for advanced education"...
by Hecklerboy inthey just had the convetion here in west virginia and it seemed like every evening they were interviewing the witnesses on the news.
what really blew my mind is that on the last day they interviewed a brother that said that "there was no need for advanced education since the end was so near".. i was really suprised they made this statement on camera.
i know they've been cracking down on a college education lately, but this is the first time i ever heard them say it on the local news.. btw: my wife isn't very popular with my jw family since she is working on her master's degree in nursing.
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I never agreed with that one, they say that so you have nothing other than them to dedicate yourself to. No participating in sports, No worldly music, Not to much internet or TV and no worldly friends. While all along that's what everybody was doing and I could never understand why when they discouraged it. There is just so much F'ed up teachings and bullshit opinions that make the monster keep rolling. They are just boring people who have these crappie gatherings, put on a happy face but inside are just miserable and weak, never speaking on their own but like a parrat repeating shit they have heard and having little proof of ,only to try and be stern when they have no answer. That they know , That's how they teach and that I was. They don't want advanced education because they want their young followers to become twisted in life and feel they need to stick to the organization, that's no secret.
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Why did I answer YES ?
by Free indid anyone answer the question like i did ?
my gut always said no but my heart said yes.
i wanted to believe in living forever like in those dam pictures, i wanted to be building those houses and hanging out with people on grassy mountain sides and have a freaking lion that would never rip my head off and that i could wrestle with.
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Did anyone answer the question like I did ? and why did you ? did you really believe it ,or was it something else ? My gut always said no but my heart said yes. I wanted to believe in living forever like in those dam pictures, I wanted to be building those houses and hanging out with people on grassy mountain sides and have a freaking lion that would never rip my head off and that I could wrestle with. I never fully believed though that these guys from Brooklyn had some crystal ball and everything they said or suggested was gold, but I did have faith in this new world . Did anyone else feel this way or close and why the hell did I say YES ? I had years to think about it before I got baptized.
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The faithlessness here
by grissom6471 init is a shame that people are here portraying themselves as jehovah's witness as having some knowlege or going to meetings.
what exists here is a complete lack of faith in anything.
and a great amount of stupidity.
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What is this guy on the gov. body, don't you have any doors to knock on ? or how about some more false prophecies ?
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Thank you forum
by Free init's only been a week since i found this fourm.
my story is a long one but some have been through the mill worst then me as i can see.
it was only about 1 month ago i read ray's first book and finished it in less than a week ( i'm on his second right now ) it took me over a year after i stopped attending meetings before i could look at anything objective about the wts which happend to be that book.
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It's only been a week since I found this fourm. My story is a long one but some have been through the mill worst then me as I can see. It was only about 1 month ago I read Ray's first book and finished it in less than a week ( I'm on his second right now ) It took me over a year after I stopped attending meetings before I could look at anything objective about the WTS which happend to be that book. Being the only one, In the last couple day's I have told my family that I was sorry for what I had put all of them through and that I am done after 10 years of being involved with the organization and I am NEVER going back, I now can only imagine how hurt they must have been and frustrated, all the holidays etc...The tears flowed down my face as I tried to explain why. They all knew that I had stopped going over a year ago because I had made some appearances on some holidays in that time (still didn't give any gifts) and had also given some hints but never said nothing at all until now. They all said it was OK and that now we can move on. I know some of your families have been torn in two though and I feel for you. I must admit I was hesitant at first about the fourm (APOSTATE) has been etched in my brain, but we are NOT that ugly word, we are normal intelligent people who just got caught up in something bigger than ourselves. Bitter? yes we are, Hurt? of course but the future can not equal the past and we all must move on. Thank you, for my healing has begun and may yours continue. All of you. Thanks for listening
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My 1st time in a KH
by fl native ini went to my first kh 3 sundays ago and was quite suprised that they we'ren't pushy.
in fact, no one even spoke except the man in front who let me borrow his songbook.
i am a christian and always have been to church.
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Do yourself a favor, check out these posts and STAY AWAY FROM THE KINGDOM HALL!! unless you want to stop growing as an individual. Trust me/us.
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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders!
by enlightenedcynic inearly sunday morning, around 1:30 a.m., my wife wakes me and says that she can't sleep and needs to talk with me.
i say ok and she proceeds to tell me that she wants a seperation.
i was hurt, but not shocked, because our relationship is not that close at this point after 14 yrs of marriage.
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Witnesses are programmed almost to the effect that the children in Nazi Germany where in turning in their parents that disagreed with Hitler. Maybe even more so.
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1000 Year Reign of Christ - A little help please
by rassillon inok all you wile e. coyote super genius types.... .
i have been looking at some of russell's charts and such and it is indicated that the millinial reign of christ would have begun in 1874 new understanding 1914..... .
does this mean that we are now living nearly a 100 years into the 1000 year reign?
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They believed that 1874 marked the end of 6,000 years of human history and they had expected Christ's return in that year. When it passed they felt disillusioned. The thousand years is supposed to start at Armageddon. That's when the ones who survive get the privilege of cleaning up , building big houses, having big gatherings on grassy mountain sides with big baskets full of fruit and little kids with those little yellow flotation devices on their arms swimming in a pool with great white sharks. They have changed so many dates it's hard to see straight. It's like three card monte for crying out loud, guess what date it is now ! Make one up yourself, There is no difference.
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Are you embarrassed?
by desib77 indoes anyone else find themselves embarrassed about their jw past?
i find that when people that know what i used to be ask me about it i am completely embarrassed by how foolish their beliefs sound especially things like the blood issue.
i can't stand when someone will say "why did you believe such and such....?
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Your not stupid neither are the people still involved today. I just say I used to believe differently like the years before being brought up in my childhood creed. I didn't believe in them either in the years before finding the truth. If someone were to ask me in that span why this ?, why that ? I would have told them the same thing. Anyway I'm just glad to still have a few good friends from the past who I never completely shut off which could have easily been the case.