I've noticed many of you that have your own ministry. I'm curious as to what doctrines you teach. Is it "Jesus is Love." and that's it or does it go deeper? If you could, please post your basic beliefs concerning these topics: >>>>
Hello Beroean, I just stumbled on your topic, I know its been a few days but hopefully your still reading it. This board moves crazy quick as you may have noticed.
I'm always pleased to talk to JW's online, as they are rather hard to comeby and not always willing to talk about religion. Particularly their own.:)
I myself am 23/f/never been a Jehovah's Witness
Now, I wanted to get your thoughts on some of the following. Don't worry, I have no quotes from any Watch Towers, nothing from the organization or any of their presidents. This is about other faiths, and some people you probably don't know, I want to get your opinion on the specific quotes of Herbert W. and some of his runnerups writings, and how you would view them in light of Scripture. Sorry this is long, perhaps a bit muddled as well.:) Sorry.
In Deuteronomy 18:19-22 we read
19 If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."
You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?" If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
So then the criteria does NOT come true, then Jehovah DID NOT speak it. Very simple. Although, at this point in history, false prophets are not put to death. Neither can we say that God MANIFESTS Himself as He apparently did in the past, unless what some of the following men claimed of course was true.
Now, there are those who have claimed to have special knowledge, sort of a privileged access, revelations from God. Typically, one will find such a person or group denouncing and repudiating the convictions of what is known as the "mainstream" Christianity as false, misguided, misleading, deceptive misinterpretations. Where at some point in the early History of Christianity, there were those who designed to pervert and corrupt the earliest Christianity, inviting in false doctrines and intentionally or unintentionally "losing" the original and "true" gospel as it were.
For one, there was Joseph Smith. He's well known, but there are hundreds like him over the last 20 centuries, and if I could just bring to light some of the more "modern" ones who expressed their opinion of their "work" in rectifying the Christian fallacies that had come to bear. After being torn about which church was "right," Joseph earnestly prayed to
God to reveal to him which was "right." Unique is the way the action that God took in Josephs case, manifesting himself physically.
Smith claimed to have had a personal visit from God the Father at the age of 15, who introduced him to Christ.1 Jesus then supposedly told him not to join any church because they were all wrong and all the Christian church's doctrines "were an abomination" (Joseph Smith -- History 19, Pearl of Great Price)
Joseph claimed that he truly was God's representative to the people on earth, as he beared the message that completed the Word of God.
"God made Aaron to be the mouthpiece for the children of Israel, and He will make me to be God to you in His stead, and the elders to be mouth for me; and if you don't like it, you must lump it" (Documentary History of the Church, vol. 6, pp 319-320).
Victor Paul Wierville who founded "The Way International" claimed special authority, and the Way International still does, to quote regarding the leaders::::from http://www.factnet.org/cults/way_international/index.html "THE WAY INTERNATIONAL CULT EXPOSED"
"Leaders of the cult believe themselves to act and speak for God. They see themselves in the capacity of Moses, leading the flock out of harms way. Failure to immediately heed a directive from leadership is considered lack of meekness--a sign of rebellion and danger to the integrity of the cult houshold. Sam makes accusations about Elmer to Julie, Elmer's girlfriend. Sam's purpose in doing this is to convince Julie that Elmer is evil, and at the same time, to reinforce his god-given authority and her need for the protection of the Household. "
Sun Myung Moon (founder The Unification Church (see former member Steve Hassans book "Combatting Cult Mind Control) otherwise known as the Moonies) claims also to have been visited by Jesus to "finish" the work that He had started
"I am not working at random or just on a whim. Our movement has a deep spiritual origin. It came into being at this particular time by a mandate of God. I have a divine guiding light. Even though many people think I am just doing things my own way, there is no such thing as my own way."
Fortunately, many of these "self-proclaimed" "restorations of first-century Christianity" have said as much,, in writing. Writing has a way of preserving something so one can scrutinize a claim that perhaps didn't materialize, and then if it is as is most often the case, denied or downplayed, those words remain as proof of the typical assuredness, urgentness, and truth of what was preached previous to its reckoning.
Herbert W. Armstrong, who was the founder of the Worldwide Church of God in the early 20th century, began a radio program and published a magazine called "The Plain Truth" He
"There is no other church or work on the face of this earth that either understands or dares to proclaim these vital warnings!... This is the very Work of God!... You are now being warned!" (The Plain Truth, Roderick Meredith, Aug. 1957, p. 6.)
Concerning the prophetic nature of their messages, they believed that while evangelists were wishy washy due to the fact that they "didn't know what the Bible says is going to happen" but they were far more confident in their own abilities to interpret the Word.
"The popular, denominationally supported evangelists often make statements like this: 'I believe that God may use Russia to punish America for her sins.' Or, 'It now seems likely that World War III may come within five years.'... They use the words 'may,' 'could,' or 'might.'... The truth of the matter is that they dare not be specific about the future because they just do not know what the Bible says is going to happen! But on 'The World Tomorrow' broadcast and in this magazine we have dared to unlock the Bible prophecies and apply them to specific nations and events that are now being affected."
Of course the leaders who "understood and proclaimed these vital warnings!" did so in the past, so of course, now we have their written record due to their printing it in a widely circulated publication. It was not just someones "memory" of something stated off the cuff, but it was decided, written, reviewed and published. These men determined from their study of Scripture, that certain things were bound to happen. Not that they "may" happen, or "could" happen, but that they would happen. It was revealing what God Himself would do.
Certainly, if I were to write these things down, with specific years denoted, for the forthcoming century, and had it all backed up by Scriptural evidence, those who read and believed in my message would have that expectation. I was convinced that it was what God intended to happen through perhaps my special relationship with him and my study of Scripture.
After you read these prophecies made in the past by this man Herbert W. Armstrong, acknowledging the Scriptures that tell us that if a "prophets" word does not come to pass,,, than this person was NOT "speaking the word of Jehovah" that "Jehovah did not send him" ...remember Jesus' warning too of false prophets.
What can we conclude about these Prophets? Who makes predictions about how God will act from Scriptures? Was Herbert "sent by Jehovah?" Did he have a "special" revelation from Jehovah? Seeing these prophecies in hindsight, could you say that this man made DEFINITE predictions? Would you say that he had the "truth"? Did any of the prophecies made in "The Plain Truth" come to pass? Why would a prophecy not come to pass? How would you judge this group with their former prophecies?
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"...the year 1936 will see the end of the Times of the Gentiles.... we may expect the present worldwide depression, time of trouble and fear of war to continue until the year 1936!... quickly after that time, we may expect to see the heavenly signs of the sun and moon becoming dark, the stars falling.... which shall be followed by the 'Day of the Lord."' (The Plain Truth, Herbert Armstrong, June-July 1934, p. 5.)
"Once world war is resumed, it must continue on thru the great Tribulation, the heavenly signs, the plagues of the Day of the Lord, and to the Second Coming of Christ, at the last battle, at Armageddon!... But this you may know! This war will be ended by Christ's return! And war may start within six weeks! We are just that near Christ's coming!" (The Plain Truth, Herbert Armstrong, Aug. 1939, p. 6.)
"Yes, it seems that God is allowing us another 19-year cycle to complete the carrying of his gospel of the kingdom to this sick and dying world.... There is a tremendous job to be done in the very short period that lies ahead of us." (The Plain Truth, Herman Hoeh, June 1953, p. 13.)
"God Almighty has spoken through His servants the prophets that He will punish our people for their sins. He will let our own lust cause such droughts, floods, pestilences and famines that we will be totally consumed and carried away captive to other nations as slaves within twenty years." (The Plain Truth, Herman Hoeh, Oct. 1955, p. 16.)
"Plagues are coming-and, according to this prophetic warning, in about two years from now! Our cattle have already suffered from the drought. Soon we shall find that the hoof-and-mouth disease will spread out of control! Rabid foxes, squirrels, muskrats will attack our children. For seven long and frightful years, we are going to suffer as never before-until we be left 'few in number.'...
"This seven years of national trouble takes us-if the dates which appear so definitely indicated by these prophecies are correct-from 1965 to 1972!" (The Plain Truth, Herman Hoeh, April 1956, p. 22.)
"Two years ago, Mr. Herman Hoeh showed in this magazine how God's word prophesied disease epidemics would strike the United States in two short years! Those epidemics are beginning now! And they will grow much worse! God prophesies that finally, within the next fifteen years, fully one third of our whole population will die of disease and famine!" (The Plain Truth, Garner Ted Armstrong, Dec. 1957, p. 23.)
"We have been daring, as no other church on earth, to proclaim definite, specific prophetic events to occur-and they have been happening!... For the specific prophesied events which this Church alone proclaims will soon be demonstrated as a physical reality! There will be no reasoning or argument about this. You will see and feel these things happen!" (The Plain Truth, Rod Meredith, June 1959, p. 32.)
"All of these internal troubles, combined with the rapid rise to power of a frightening huge combine in Europe, are going to spell out great disaster for the United States and Britain in the '60's.... It is going to happen! No amount of reasoning, 'spiritualizing away,' arguing, doubting, scoffing, or disbelieving is going to change it! Almighty God, in His inviolate Word, thunders from His great throne in the universe that these very prophecies are going to come to pass!" (The Plain Truth, Ted Armstrong, Mar. 1960, p. 10.)
"Frankly, literally dozens of prophesied events indicate that this final revival of the Roman Empire in Europe-and its bestial persecution of multitudes of Bible-believing Christians-will take place within the next seven to ten years of your life!" (The Plain Truth, Rod Meredith, Feb. 1965, p. 48.)
"Bible prophecy indicates that the final attack on the U.S. and Britain by this coming 'Beast' power could easily be launched perhaps as early as the spring of 1972-or earlier ...." (The Plain Truth, Rod Meredith, May 1965, p. 45. )
"The 'Day of the Eternal'-a time foretold in more than thirty prophecies-is going to strike between 5 and 10 years from now!... I am not writing foolishly, but very soberly, on authority of the living Christ!" (The Plain Truth, Herbert Armstrong, Feb. 1967, p. 47.)
"It doesn't take an understanding of certain 'Bible doctrine,' or necessary agreement with it, to admit to yourself candidly that what Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong was faithfully proclaiming back before, during and right at the close of World War II, and what he and others who have since come to join him in this great work of God have been proclaiming day in and day out ever since-is actually happening before your very eyes!" (The Plain Truth, Ted Armstrong, Nov. 1962, p. 21.)
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There are many more, but that is good enough to illustrate that they were making prophecies were they not? Giving their prophecies a "time-frame" to be fulfilled? Were specific enough that one would have known what was the "Bible" was predicting to occur?
Where do these men base there authority? Have they come to the conclusion themselves that they are unique channels of Gods truth? Or can it be objectively established? Are we to believe everyone who calls him or herself or them or themselves a "prophet" or portends to have a special relationship with God? To be his Mouthpiece? If there are claims then there must be a way at least to determine objectively if they are not what they say they are. How can we conclude that Joseph Smith's Mormonism is not as a Mormon said "the most important work on Earth today" or that his gospel is or is not as the church claims the "restoration of first century Christianity" where the only salvation is found through their gospel? How would one of the Mormons go about investigating if indeed it was "the Truth" as it is referred to among its memebers? Would they perhaps need to look at the "opposing" view? Consider information about who Joseph Smith was, what truth there was in the Book of Mormon and his other works, look at the history of the Church in general since it makes lofty and insistent claims?
What if the information that a Mormon needed in order to evaluate the "truth" in the Mormon message was "forbidden" by the church elders, and they were told that anything "negative" to the Church was untrue lying Satanic propoganda? Looking as you can at the Mormon message while not being a member, could you see anything that might be a red flag that maybe Joseph was not a prophet? How could a member of the Mormon Church for example determine by only studying Mormon approved material, that perhaps the Israelites did not come to the Americas 2,500 years ago? All the Mormon material says they did! And anything critical is false, lies, propaganda, apostates with an axe to grind are out to destroy Mormon faith. I have read enough Mormon thought to see that they operate that way. They term their excommunicated members "apostates" and though not strictly "shun" them. The question is, is the information that made that once believer leave "the truth" something that is false? Or is it perhaps something that the Church takes an interest in hiding because only a lies need such vigilant guarding?
Oh, so many more thoughts to consider, but I think this is long enough.
sincerely,
smellsgood
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Curious about what ExJW's Preach and Teach
by BEROEAN ini've noticed many of you that have your own ministry.
i'm curious as to what doctrines you teach.
is it "jesus is love.
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LIVID at knocking documentary
by avishai inwe give state funds for this sh*t?
phillip brumley's smug face on there?
well, here's how he twists words about child molesters......the person referred to in the story, the victim, is my brother.
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Oh, dang I must have missed that part of the documentary...I didn't see the bits focused on molestation at all, I think its going to rerun though
I couldn't help but think that this WASN'T a documentary about Jehovah's Witnesses, it was a documentary about that holocaust survivor. It was so evident that the makers focused on only the things that to the public might come across as heroic. The things they endlessly toot their own horns about. If I'm not mistaken, I've read there were FAR FEWER than 10,000 witnesses in concentration camps, the number stated in the documentary. It was so majorly unbalanced.
Joel should make a documentary about how Charles Manson is a bunny loving philanthropist. I bet he could pull it off. Oh, forgot to mention that he MURDERED PEOPLE. Sorry about that.
This is just going to open up the doors more for all the people out there who are completely ignorant of the true nature of the WT. They're going to be like "oooh, I saw that documentary" and the Witnesses will puff out their chests and say, "yes, we have done so much for freedom in this country"
Even though, had they existed around the time of the Revolutionary war, they wouldn't have been out their with their fellow Americans fighting for Independence. They didn't earn freedom in this Country. That honour belongs to the members of other religions because JW's DIDN'T EXIST seeking freedom of religion, democracy, to politicians, fighters, anything they wouldn't participate in. Whatever.
It just gave the trite answers of the Witnesses why they did not do such and such, didn't explore them whatsoever.
What a bunch of rubbish, and no wonder all the gung ho Witnesses posts that I've read think it's the most awesome documentary of all time.
I agree wholeheartedly with Kid-A, we desparately need a counterdocumentary. Hell, I'd shoot it if I had the equipment. -
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A mormon fires back at PBS
by LovesDubs inmy reply is in the next post.
(its long...).
> show even though you devoted 40 minutes to the.
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3) portraying Mormon his tory and doctrine as
> cultic, deceitful and secretive, absurd, and
> outlandishly weird.
OH, you know, Israelites coming to the Americas 2500 years ago, the bizarre and utterly fictitious history in the Book of Mormon, the Temple underwear, the "sealing" of a wife to a husband, the POLYGAMY, baptising at a furious rate all dead people, the doctrine of Black people being basically little Satans incarnate, the polytheistic God was a man and is corporal, no, you know, I don't see why this comes across as cultic, absurd or outlandishly weird. But then again I don't see why more people don't accept excessive consumption of vodka as a cure for herpes.
<<Regarding Stendall's rules, PBS
> somehow decided to give a time ratio of
> approximately 10-1 to non-LDS commentators and those
> who are bitter former members with an axe to grind
> (several of whom I know personally). >>
Did he actually do a headcount? I'm pretty sure I saw the same thing as him, and my count was exactly ONE ex-member being interviewed. He was weilding a chipped old axe ironically.
Sweet dear cult members, always demonising and understanding the ex-member only as a vengeful, hate-filled maniac who's sole purpose is to lie and smear their former religion.
For
> example, with an almost dismissive manner you
> trivialized the Book of Mormon by numerous
> references to a strange and magical translation
> story,
Which is exactly how Joseph Smith related it. Strange and magical it was. Do they deny that what happened in Josephs own words was the Angel Moroni gave him those tablets, and he used the seer stone and the urimm and thummin to translate it? Do they also want to deny that Joseph Smith had a beard? Wore pants? Didn't die a martyr but went out with guns blazing?
> DNA accusations of unreliability,
Ummmmm, yes, the DNA has PROVEN that as all non bewitched members of the American culture already knew, that the Native Americans in this country DID NOT descend from Israelites. It's just a fact, but of course, Mormonism wouldn't recognise a fact unless it was the "fact" that they are right. About everything. Hallelujah and thank the prophetless.
and
> Antebellum American context for book which you
> portrayed as very human and very flawed. No matter
> that the book is among the most widely sold books in
> the world, that millions of converts trace their
> conversions to the text, and that intelligent people
> actually believe it.
Wow, then Harry Potter must be a true story since its sold (I thought the BOM was free?) millions of copies and has been read by millions of people. Intelligence has nothing to do with the innate ability of so many of us to be duped, hoodwinked, swindled and otherwise intellectually taken captive by inane and ridiculous codswallop. Bottom line: Intelligence does not innoculate you from being deceived.
HALF of that program was reduced to 2
> events * plural marriage and the Mountain Meadows
> massacre. The rest was devoted largely to your view
> of how strange, mysterious, and weird Joseph Smith
> apparently was. Was that the best you could do for
> 100 years of history, accomplishment, and
> contribution?
When Joseph Smith is the sole founder, and writer of your modern "revelations" that "complete the work of Jesus" and are the most "vital means necessary for salvation" (paraphr.) then, yeah, the fact that 12 million or above people follow this man's insanity will put him under just a little bit of scrutiny. If I wrote down in a book that I was the descendant and rightful heir to the British crown, it wouldn't make it true, and perhaps there would be that dratted DNA tests they would insist on before they took my word for it. :)
Latter-day
> Saints do not apologize for following the Lord's
> direction on this matter.
Really? He's contradicting what the "higher ups" on the program publicly stated. That plural marriage was not good, and they were forbidden to practice it.
> We have nothing to hide.
> I may personally never wish to participate in the
> practice but it is not a source of
> embarrassment.Point Two: Did you look into the
> history of this with Joseph Smith? Do you know that
> while studying the Bible he came across the plural
> marriages of these early venerated prophets and was
> in such shock that he went to the Lord in prayer to
> ask how in the world such a practice could be
> acceptable? And to his dismay and disgust, he was
> answered by the Lord * but not with an answer he
> could have ever imagined. In our publicly
> accessible scriptures (Doctrine and Covenants 132)
> the Lord answers by saying that He would tell Joseph
> Smith the answer, but once He did, Joseph would be
> asked to live the same law.
That's what he wrote. I could write that I was shocked and appalled to learn that people had eaten pomegranetes, while privately wanting one like crazy. And conveniently when I prayed to God to ask him about it, He said he would only answer me if I would do it just the same as those other people. Whom I knew had eaten pomegranetes. Oh, well, what a drag, now I have to eat one. I really *hate* this!
You portrayed little respect, a great
> deal of antagonism, and a general avoidance of the
> grandness of the Church and its doctrines. One
> wonders just how the LDS Church could be growing at
> all given your abysmal assessment. Was that irony
> lost on you?
Growth is all that matters. If it is only volume and growth that matters to evaluate the worthiness of a cause, religion, or even a product, that standing alone seems an alarmingly backwards criterion. I guess that folgers coffee must be the most delicious and best because there is more of it for sale than other coffees. Bacteria grow. Scientology is growing. Wal Mart is the largest retailer on the planet.
nuf said. :)
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My Mother is studying WT literature with a 7th Day Adventist and wants info
by OnTheWayOut inmy mother is not computer savvy, so she asked me to look up 7th day advents and the woman,.
ellen white, who founded it.
i will print a bunch of information for her from wikipedia to help.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/seventh_day_adventist.
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Frankly, I think it would be more helpful to give the SDA information on the Watchtower :). SDA is a little unusual, some quirks. It's got some cultishness to it, but not nearly as repellant as the WT. (The most vomitrocious of all IMHO)
Ellen G. White as was found out, was a plagiarist through and through. Called herself a "prophetess" but she was more like a "copier." They don't eat the meat, of course Sabbath is Saturday and the Sunday worshipping is akin to the Mark of the Beast. It is interesting about the commonality of inspiration behind White and Russell: Bill Miller. The 1844 stuff and how it failed to come about and how they spun it like a shadow to 1874/1914 damage control.
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Jonny
by Squares indo you find jonny greenwod to be as attractive as i do?
intellect, talent, and a gorgeous jaw structure are wonderful qualities.
agree?.
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I'm so busy I can't post often, but I had to respond to this! Yes, I find Jonny Greenwood immensely attractive, mostly his intellegence, talent, humility, face, and of course that hair!
We have the same subject for an avatar :)
btw, I clicked on this because of the particular spelling.
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"Apocalypto" Ain't religion great?
by Gregor inhaven't seen the movie but i understand it grapically depicts human sacrifice.
i believe the movie attributes the practice of cutting out the victims heart atop a mayan pyramid by a mayan high priest.
if i remember my history, the mayans didn't do this, it was the aztecs.
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"If I remember my history, the Mayans didn't do this, it was the Aztecs. The Mayans would occasionally throw virgins into deep limestone cisterns."
The Aztecs, Incas and Mayans sacrificed humans and would pull out the heart while still beating. I saw the movie and it was gory but it did tie in the human sacrifice to the fact that there crops were having trouble. That's when they would sacrifice humans.
In the movie it was a small tribe whose choice men were led away for sacrifice. The reality was that there was no discrimination as to sex or age with sacrifice. Meaning, that being of a certain sex or age didn't offer security.
They sacrificed children. There are skeletons of the age of 6.
If the child had some sort of dental problem, such as an abcess and were crying alot during a sacrifice, this was supposedly a good sign.
Of course they shoved people in the well too. Just as in the movie, the men would be painted blue before being put on the stone, cut under the ribcage. Also accurate in the movie is the priest who is in a trance and channelling spirits during the whole ordeal. Really disturbing stuff! -
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God Is Love
by under_believer ina meditation on love, using only scriptures.
from the nwt, for easy readability for any witness readers out there.
1 john 4:8 - he that does not love has not come to know god, because god is love.. .
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I think many people misunderstand the nature of love.
Is love just a fancy, just a feeling? What pop artists sing about?
Love is a temple, Love is a higher law :) Love is the higher law.
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BEST BUY employees not allow to say "MERRY CHRISTMAS"
by lighthouse19something inbest buy employee threatened with being fired if they say 'merry christmas" to customers.
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people need to get over the notion that nothing in life should ever offend them, that they should never be put upon, or heaven forbid, wished to have a merry-something they don't celebrate-. I just picture big whiners with nauseatingly unchallenged lives (americans) thinking, how can I live in a bubble, nooo no, a bigger bubble, a reinforced airtight exclusive bubble!
Let me never have an adversarial point of view postulated, let no one ever offer me something I don't really want, let nothing interfere with my perfect whitewashed bubble. Since when do private corporations have to be so scared about anything with religious undertones, when they CAPITALISE ON IT in an extreme way, that they have no freedom, and it does take away personal freedom, to wish someone have a merry Christmas??
Happy holidays? That's gotta go soon too I should think, y'know, 'holy-days'
Now I'm afraid that if I try and wish someone a good Tuesday they'll be offended since Tuesday isn't their favourite day, and I'll have to reform to happy weekday!
I bet those people wonder why their sh*t stinks.
If someone wished me happy Channakuh, I couldn't be less put upon, I'd wish it back.
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Scientist I Interviewed on Evolution, the Bible, & Climate Change
by Seeker4 inive got some interesting quotes about global climate change, evolution and the bible from a well-known scientist i interviewed last week.
thought some here would enjoy these, as these are issues we often debate on jwd.
im doing an article for a magazine about scientist tom wessels and his new book, the myth of progress.
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"That’s why creation science has been thrown out in the courts, because it doesn’t follow the scientific approach. Creation science has a priori ideas"
You cannot test so many things "scientifically" is what so many people forget. Based on Scientific evidence, how does one determine or measure love for another person for instance?
I don't want to live in a world where the only measure of truth is the conclusions of scientific method. How dull.
I like philosophy too much :) So many things can be explored "a priori" (without experience). Immanuel Kants 'Logic' & 'Critique of Pure Reason'
The scientific community harrases those who don't fall in with the evolutionary party line anyways. They are as dogmatic about it as any fundy religion.
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pic of rare baby albino deer
by purplesofa insent: tuesday, december 05, 2006 12:38 pm.
subject: fw: albino whitetail deer.
this deer was found by a family in sweet home, oregon.. .
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That is so cute, I'm so glad it didn't get hit.
But, um, since its albino it probably has vision problems and maybe shouldn't have a bright flashbulb going off to close to its face.
I'd never noticed deer had eyelashes before!