However, whenever they ask ANY kind spiritual questions, she simply tells them straight up, " I don't want to talk about it, I do not have freedom of speech".
Vinny that is a great response!
dubs just stopped by.
saw my husband working outside and literally chased him around the back of the house and pounded and called through the sliding glass door.
when we ignored it, he went around to the front and pounded and called through that door.
However, whenever they ask ANY kind spiritual questions, she simply tells them straight up, " I don't want to talk about it, I do not have freedom of speech".
Vinny that is a great response!
good afternoon!
my apologies if this has been asked before, but i am wondering:.
(1) if there is anyone on this forum, who has a mom or dad who opened up that they were gay?.
My ex is gay, we were both born and raised JW's. We married when I was 17 he was 21. He had already had a gay relationship with another bro, but I did not know that until 18 years later when we parted. My ex and I left the org and divorced at about the same time, he also came out of the closet. We had two children about
nine and fourteen at the time. The older one clung to "the truth" briefly, but both of my kids have great BS detectors, so she didn't last long. Among today's youth, being gay just seems to be a non issue. Our kids have no problem with Dad being gay, they are now in there early twenties. If not for the JW religion, I bet your kids would have no problem with your sexual orientation. Just another way the dubs tear families apart. Because of the old farts in NY I spent eighteen years of my young life in an impossible relationship. I would catch the attention of men everywhere I went, but my husband didn't want to touch me. I married so young and ignorant that I had nothing to compare my relationship to. We had sex regularly, but in eighteen years he never once opened his eyes. He would be loving and affectionate to me in public, but cold, distant, and unkind when we were alone. He constantly showered me with presents. How does a young ignorant girl decipher what's going on? I don't blame him, I blame that goddam religion, he was just trying to be good, just like I was. I can't imagine what it must feel like to have your children shun you, I hope one day they will see beyond the haze that constant meetings, field service and assemblies produce.my almost 17 year old daughter left to stay with her dad last thursday.
this is the second time she has left due to my strict rules, like 10p school day curfue, get to school on time, keep your grades above a c. she has not kept to my rules, so as a consequence i told her this last wednesday night she has lost driving priviledges of the car i gave her on her 16th birthday.
she said she was leaving to live with her dad.
My huisbeand is not gay but he does not care for me. He does like some of the runner females who are faster than me. I am working hard to lose weight. Maybe I can be as fast as them one day. I run a solid 10 minute mile but maybe I could lose more weight and run a 6 minute mile and win my age division. The overall race winners run a 4 minute mile so I know that would not be possible,. But if I were to lose 50 lbs maybe I could make an inmression on my husband and he would be interested in "that way". Otherwise, I know I am too old and heavy.
Jill, this is not normal, this is the saddest thing i have read in a long time. Losing more weight and running faster will not fix things with your husband.
Please, seek couseling.
I mean this in the kindest way, you are treating yourself very badly, and their must be a reason why.
to me there is a definite difference in my generation and the one coming after me, when i graduated you basically had three choices.
military, college or a fulltime job which meant more than 40 and you were expected to grow up, today kids are seen as postponing this for years, it reminds me of the proverbs 29:21 kjv says .
21 he that delicately bringeth up his servant from a child shall have him become his son at the length.. when is it time to push the little birds from the nest and tell them to flap real hard?.
Sleeps until 2-4 in the afternoon, Does drugs in and out the house Drinks our liquer and brings it back to the house with his underage friends, we have to chase them out Doesn't clean ANYTHING Refuse to pay $25/ week rent that we would give back to him when he leaves Has stolen from us a multiple times Gave him a car that he has trashed, paid 7 times to get it fixed, paid for first 6 months worth of insurance, paid his fines Leaves a mess everywhere in the house Yells and curses at his mother Throws his cig butts everywhere Has almost burnt the house down by cooking for hours in the early morning a cooking mit Bedroom trashed unless his mother cleans it He is completely difiant, immature, a complete mess, lazy and we are done with it. How long would you last?
You have done waaay above the call of duty.
This kid needs a swift kick out the door. No more "help"
to me there is a definite difference in my generation and the one coming after me, when i graduated you basically had three choices.
military, college or a fulltime job which meant more than 40 and you were expected to grow up, today kids are seen as postponing this for years, it reminds me of the proverbs 29:21 kjv says .
21 he that delicately bringeth up his servant from a child shall have him become his son at the length.. when is it time to push the little birds from the nest and tell them to flap real hard?.
Her needs were simple. She needed an inexpensive apartment for less than $250 a month (my stated rate), including utilities, that would accept two adorable cats and one German Shepherd. Hardwood floors throughout preferred. I let her search, keeping my counsel.
Within a couple weeks she stopped complaining. Real life is the best teacher
JG, I love it, you handled it perfectly!
You will never, ever win an argument with a teeage girl. They just have to see it for themselves
oy vey!
so my friend made me watch the "movie" the secret last night.
it's basically a movie about the concept of visualizing and how we can achieve anything we want if we just picture it and not think about the negative.
No I have not seen the movie, but saw the author of the book interviewed on Oprah.
She is one slick salesman.
I'm not saying "the secret" is a pack of lies, there is a lot of truth to what she says.
But it's just basic goal-setting stuff, nothing mystical or fantastic, but that is how she packages it.
She is making a ton of money on it, but it's 95% mystical cloud enshrouded hype.
Listening to the author, made me feel a little used.
i'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but on pages 28-29 of the april 15, 2007 watchtower study on let the congregation be built up, they seem to be trying to justify the notion that a person cannot be 'saved' if they leave the organization, even if they have just cause:.
paragraph 15 reads" in modern times, some have ceased associating with the local congregation, feeling that they will serve god on their own.
they may say that it is because their feelings were hurt, they think a wrong is not being corrected, or they cannot accept some teaching.
some have ceased associating with the local congregation, feeling that they will serve God on their own. They may say that it is because their feelings were hurt, they think a wrong is not being corrected, or they cannot accept some teaching.
And yet, the Society would say that these are excellent reasons for leaving any other religion.
....to get out of bed to do massive hrs of service each month?.
Guilt Guilt Guilt
...get a divorce and at least have a chance at happiness?
my husband and i would never have gotten married if we weren't both in the borg.
now we're both out and we have nothing in common.
If you stay and be miserable, that's what they learn to do.
This is what finally woke me up to get out of my own shitty amrraige.
I realized that my daughters were going to grow up and end up with a marraige just like mine.
I wanted to model something different, even if it was only the pursuit of happiness and self-growth.
Have any of you read The Secret, by Rhonda Byrne?
No I have not read this, but I saw her interviewed by Oprah, along with similar inspirational speakers.
To me it just seemed like she was putting a mystical, sensational spin on a basic fact.
Bacically, you get what you attract. And you need to pay attention to what you are attracting.
If your negative, you will tend to attract other negative people, cuz the positive people think your a drag, and your gonna stay negative.
If your a giver, you will attract takers and or users.
If your idea of the world is poverty and desperation, then guess what? That's all your life is gonna be filled with.
Or maybe I misunderstood "the secret"