I think I understand where your coming from, I agree, he's not standing up for you..
but, dahum, I don't think I would ever call my husband weak, I mean, it's just so cold and cutting.
It doesn't seem productive at all.
so my husband rarely talks to his sister and never talks to his mom.
his sister, brother in law and mom will have nothing to do with me because 10 years ago when i left the jws they heard rummors (gossip) that i was apostate.. husband is totally apostate too by their standards but they ignore what they don't want to see.
he celebrates all the holidays, goes to church, celebrates birthdays and bad mouths the wts all the time.. well sister in law calls this morning and he is on the phone with her for one hour.
I think I understand where your coming from, I agree, he's not standing up for you..
but, dahum, I don't think I would ever call my husband weak, I mean, it's just so cold and cutting.
It doesn't seem productive at all.
just wondering.
it makes me think whoever underlines the wt without going throughly is purely hypocritical.
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I also rarely commented because I found it insulting to my intelligence to recite a sentence or concept that we just read without any thought or personal slant on things.
When they started to insist that you answer only from the paragraph, that's when I stopped raising my hand, it was just so demeaning and insulting to our intelligence.
i ran into an ex jw i used to babysitt when i was a teenager.
that really makes you feel old, you know :-) anyway i invited her over for some coffee and we got talking gossip of course.
she was in for several years after me and was filling me in on all the juicy stuff i shouldnt care about :-) .
No I absolutely would not snitch.
I might let little bro know I knew though.
yes, it's been awhile, as you can see, i've been a little busy....lol.
anyway, i named him cash (i love his name), he will be 3 weeks old tomorrow.
i forgot how much work it is to take care of a newborn, but it's all worth it.
Good job!
he's a beaut!
over the last 3 years i've gotten much faster at making a wt article look "studied".. .
how fast can you get one ready for inspection by snoopy elders and microphone handlers?.
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1. Repetition is a very powerful mind control technique.
Repetition is a very powerful mind control technique.
1 a) What is a powerful mind control technique? b) How powerful is it?
Effin hilarious, thank you, you made my day!
the internet?.
i just love it, and i don't remember what i used to do without it.. what about you?.
judge dread .
I'm with you, I LOVE it.
I like to research everything before making a dicision, so much info right at your fingertips!
Whenever I am around JW's i love to go on a rant about all the useful info I find on the web.
yield and overcome; bend and be straight.. empty out and be full; wear out and be renewed.. have little and gain; have much and be confused.. therefore, the true person embraces the one.
and becomes a model for all.. do not look only at yourself, and you will see much.. do not justify yourself, and you will be distinguished.. do not brag, and you will have merit.. do not be prideful, and your work will endure.. it is because you do not strive.
that no one under heaven can strive with you.. the saying of the old ones, .
What is so wonderful about it, is how "gentle" it is. There are no commands demanded and no laws set forth. It just gently and matter-of-factly says it like it is.
That is what attracts me to it.
i don't know about anyone else, but even when i was 14 or 15 i had an issue with the fact that women are weaker vessels than men and we are to be submissive to our "head" of the house etc.... people just assumed i was a moody teenager trying to be cool by disagreeing with those scriptures but i was a feminist in the making.. i even asked an elder's wife about it and i said to her: "you're a headstrong woman, how do you feel about this?
do you think you should succumb to paul's every word and do as he says all the time??".
she replied: "i hate that scripture too sarah.
and i truly believe that women are the stronger of the species.
Women outlive men by about 7 years, while also giving birth to more humans, with a body that is physically weaker then men.
If that doesnt prove who's the toughest, I don't know what does.
jehovah's witnessses, (and esp their leadership, the governing body) are guilty of so many things, that one has to be careful of the tabloid rumors swirling around them.. it's probably helpful to review first of all what jw's are guilty of.
they are absolutely guilty in their efforts to control active members under the dictates of the conscience of the gb.
every other watchtower article usually has big time references to how we shouldn't be like those self righteous pharisees in jesus day for all the rules, followed by another article next describing what one can (could) or can't (shouldn't) watch on tv, wear for clothing or hairstyles, etc.
They were definitely inaccuracies. Nothing epic but minor issues ( I can't remeber exactly what it was).
I wish it was not the case but It happened
Didn't mean to de track from what you and Jeff are saying.
I agree completely, if you can't keep your facts straight, stick only to topics that you are comfortible with. Otherwise your harming the cause.
I tend to screw up little facts and details, so i don't bother with trying to disprove 607 as the fall of jerulelum or any stuff like that.
I stick with logic (simple logic)
jw, (tells me that something I am doing is wrong.)
me, I have to do what my conscience tells me is right.
jw, well your conscience is wrong, satan has control of you and is tricking your mind.
me, if satan has control of me, and is tricking me, that means that satan could also be controlling and tricking you.
jw, no, he's not tricking me, I know I am right because (insert whatever excuse here).
me, but that's the point, you wouldn't know that, you would be fooled, just like you claim he is fooling me!
jehovah's witnessses, (and esp their leadership, the governing body) are guilty of so many things, that one has to be careful of the tabloid rumors swirling around them.. it's probably helpful to review first of all what jw's are guilty of.
they are absolutely guilty in their efforts to control active members under the dictates of the conscience of the gb.
every other watchtower article usually has big time references to how we shouldn't be like those self righteous pharisees in jesus day for all the rules, followed by another article next describing what one can (could) or can't (shouldn't) watch on tv, wear for clothing or hairstyles, etc.
I got my believing wife to look at this site. The first time she did, she read a number of inacuracies concerning JW teachings. I had to agree that what she read was completely wrong. She discounted the site without looking deeper into the inacurate statements. I can't say I blame her but getting it wrong may have closed the door on getting her out. This is not to say she would have changed her view but I loooked like I was grasping for any reason to ge out.
Were they really inacuracies? Or was it stuff that was inacurate about the JW teachings at the current time?
They first few times I read JW critical info. i felt the same as your wife. I thought it was all a bunch of lies becasue they claimed things that I knew the society did not teach. But come to find out, they did teach those things at one time.