Hello and welcome to the board.
Why would you want to go to the elders if you're not religious now? It does sound as if you want to get back at him.
Paul
i am a sister that kind of "fell away" from the organization.
i felt that i wasn't accepted by my brothers and sisters (long, long story).
whatever i did i wasn't "perfect" enough.
Hello and welcome to the board.
Why would you want to go to the elders if you're not religious now? It does sound as if you want to get back at him.
Paul
http://presidentialmemorial.wordpress.com/.
to honor george w bush for his eight years of honorable public service, the presidential memorial commission of san francisco is sponsoring a ballot initiative this november.
it reads.
http://presidentialmemorial.wordpress.com/
To honor George W Bush for his eight years of honorable public service, the Presidential Memorial Commission of San Francisco is sponsoring a ballot initiative this November.
It reads…
Should The City And County of San Francsico Rename The Oceanside Water Pollution Control Plant the George W Bush Sewage Plant?
The following is taken from The Associated Press http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5guVNwXOYPWIxthNRethGxGUK6rxQD91P9GNG0
By MICHELLE LOCKE – 1 day ago
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A California group submitted a proposal Monday to rename a sewage treatment plant after President Bush, calling the initiative a fitting tribute to the outgoing chief executive and the "mess" he'll leave behind.
The Presidential Memorial Commission of San Francisco wants to switch the name of the Oceanside Water Pollution Control Plant to the George W. Bush Sewage Plant.
Supporters hoping to put the issue on the November ballot turned in more than 10,000 signatures to San Francisco election officials, organizer Brian McConnell said. The measure needs just over 7,000 valid names to qualify and McConnell expects to find out later this month whether they made it.
Proponents of the renaming plan see it as fitting tribute to a president they contend has plumbed the depths of incompetence.
"We think that it's important to remember our leaders in the right historical context," said McConnell, a member of the group that was formed after friends came up with the renaming idea.
"In President Bush's case, we think that we will be cleaning up a substantial mess for the next 10 or 20 years," he said. "The sewage treatment facility's job is to clean up a mess, so we think it's a fitting tribute."
The "mess," as supporters of the plan see it, includes the aftermath of the Iraq war and what they see as a neglect of domestic economic issues.
"What we're really doing is symbolizing the fact that as he leaves office, we'll begin the process of basically repairing damage and rebuilding our country's reputation," he said.
But others think the plan reeks.
The chairman of the San Francisco Republican Party has promised to fight the measure if it does make the ballot.
A call by The Associated Press to White House press officials was not returned. But Patrick Dorinson, a former spokesman for the California Republican Party now running a communications firm in Sacramento, called the measure "a horrible idea" that is "childish and it's stupid."
"This is why San Francisco is considered wacky," Dorinson said. "It makes me ashamed to be a San Franciscan if this is all they've got time to do."
San Francisco Public Utilities Commission spokesman Tony Winnicker says officials have bigger issues to deal with than the proposed initiative. He defended Oceanside as anything but a symbol of inadequacy.
"The plant that they're seeking to rename really offers extraordinary environmental benefits. Without it, raw sewage and storm water would flow into the bay and the oceans and the streets. That's not our understanding of what the authors of this initiative believe the current president has delivered," Winnicker said.
Still, he said, the commission is "trying to take it in stride and understand the humor behind it."
Wonder if we could do something similar for Blair?
Paul
i wanted to drop in and introduce myself.
my name is mike and i am from the kansas city area.
i have been reading threw this board for a little bit and i couldn't wait to join.
Welcome to the board Mike.
Paul
has anyone done any real volunteer work since leaving the dubs or while a dub (scandalous?
) and no you can't count delivering the rags.
Yes, i worked for a mental health telephone call line. I also worked for a neighbourhood mediation service, helping neighbours resolve disputes.
Paul
one of the things that has long been debated is the location of noah's flood.
the most popular, and most common claim, is that the flood was in mesopotamia, or present day iraq.
but, as has been pointed out on this forum before by alan f and others, the major problem with this theory is that the entire area drains into the persian gulf.
Could this be Noah's Ark?
The above is the Ararat Anomoly taken in 1949. Below is a close up taken in 1987.
The following is Turkey's official Noahs Arks site. A village called Uzengili, interestingly the village used to be called Nasar, "Nisir" was the Babylonian name for Noahs city.
Below is an artist impression as to how it may look above the mud
Anyway all food for thought.
Paul
i've been away to visit my sister and her "worldly" husband after many years of not seeing her...i don't even have her phone number as she lives overseas.
we just had a first family get together.
when she met me at the door i was ready for anything!
I think you should apologise to her, it would help you also. Even if you write it down, rather than say it to her face to face. You obviously love your sister very much, it would mean so much to her.
Paul
read and weep.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/exclusive-no-ice-at-the-north-pole-855406.html.
Terrible
Paul
the following is taken from a co's homepage.
http://www.dbhome.dk/carlo/co.html.
are cats for true christians?.
Is this a spoof home page then?
I honestly thought it was for real Sorry folks
Paul
i wasjust really curious to see what the average of everyone's "history" is here, and also how many "higer ups" we have that have abandoned the ways.
so what were you, an elder?
a pioneer?
Baptised at 15
Auxilery pioneered from 16-18
Regular pioneered 18-21
Got married 21
On and Off till 26 then faded into the distance
Paul
this site has a copy of the co outline... in spanish
http://www.herniacerebral.blogspot.com/
Thanks valkyrie for your work on this
Paul