from all of my research so far on the 607 issue the only argument that jw's have for it is the 70 year period counting backwards from 537bce.
as 539bce is the accepted date for cyrus conquering babylon, why do they say 537bce is the date he released the jews and not 538bce or 536bce for instance?.
paul.
Thanks A&G. I have only recently been thinking about this. For the last week i have been going toe to toe with a JW on the 607 issue on a bible discussion site. After everything was going back and forth i eventually asked him from the angle of 587BCE and he refused to answer, said i was ridiculing!
Anyway it really got me thinking that i do not think there is anything out there to substantiate this date.
Paul
from all of my research so far on the 607 issue the only argument that jw's have for it is the 70 year period counting backwards from 537bce.
as 539bce is the accepted date for cyrus conquering babylon, why do they say 537bce is the date he released the jews and not 538bce or 536bce for instance?.
paul.
From all of my research so far on the 607 issue the only argument that JW's have for it is the 70 year period counting backwards from 537BCE. As 539BCE is the accepted date for Cyrus conquering Babylon, why do they say 537BCE is the date he released the jews and not 538BCE or 536BCE for instance?
Paul
my favorites are:.
"paradise earth": not in the bible.
"great crowd" of "other sheep" - two unrelated texts... put them together, and voila!, you just changed the destiny of millions!.
No worldly hairstyles
Paul
...to jedi master!
it is now my light sabre and i against the world!.
"you know the day destroys the night.
So have i....just took me a slightly bit longer than you.
Paul
jws say they are clean and pure and undefiled and not like the world but in reality there are those that do very evil things and they either have fallen through the cracks, have gotten disciplined or disfellowshipped.. we realize that just because a person says they are a christian, it doesn't mean they will always act like one.. regarding pedophiles, do you believe that jws have a huge problem involving an infestation of pedos?
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I can always remember there were two guys in particular in my old cong who used to act in a way that wasn't right around girls. I am talking about tickling and being over physical in a leaching sort of way, rather than anything obvious and it was always girls, never boys with both of them. This was always noted amongst some of the rank and file but the amazing thing is that nothing was ever said and they still attend now. It was as if because they were witnesses, perhaps we were reading to much into it, whereas the reality is if these guys acted the way they did in another environment someone would at the very least have something to say.
I am also aware that in my old cong there was a case involving child abuse many years ago but the details of who was involved was a well kept secret only known to a few elders who were around at the time.
Paul
in regards to other posts about people dropping dead during meeting and assemblies, it has been my belief that jw's have a pretty weird way of dealing with death.
i'm not sure if its just my family or what but none of my brothers or sisters ever go to visit my dad's grave.
i know this for sure, because no one in my family burried him, i took his ashes and placed him in a cemetery, none of my jw brothers or sister ever asked where is dad located, and by that time my mom was already married to another jw.
You are so correct Andre about the way JW's deal with death. The JW funeral is a typical example, it's so different to the typical funeral. Only one or two are upset, it's treated more as a way to give a witness to the non believers.
Paul
take my quiz.
then make up one about you: .
http://www.testriffic.com/friendtest/4688644.
I did give it a go but didn't want to register myself, so sorry i do not know my score.
Paul
there is a blood drive at work this coming tuesday.. i'm scheduled for 10:00am and this will be my first donation.
does anyone have any suggestions to make it successful?.
i volunteered about 2 years ago but got sick the day before and so i was declined.
Go for it...it is something i have considered myself but never got around to doing it.
Paul (now of the jedi class)
google books now has up russell's book: the divine plan of the ages and the corroborative testimony of the great pyramid.
it's a special edition that combines volume 1 of studies in the scriptures with the chapter from volume 3 on the great pyramid.
i believe this edition dates from about 1912 or so.
JCanon,
Thanks, it wasn't a question to query you, it's just that i have never heard it before.
Paul
one of the main teachings of pastor russell was that all would be enlightened with a knowledge of god's truth before they are placed on trial and judged for their final destiny.
for the majority of mankind this would be when they are raised from the dead at the time of the general resurrection.
their final judgment would be based on their conduct while enlightened and not on their conduct while in ignorance.
My guess is that Russell was a kind man and Rutherford a vindicative one.
I have often thought that. Russell and his associates debated the bible, i can see why some argue that it was Rutherford who was the founder of this cult rather than Russell.
Paul
