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  LYNCHPIN doctrine on 1914 NOT from "faithful and discreet slave"--stolen!

  by Terry in

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  the "chain of evidence" which links jehovah's witnesses with adventist die-hards influenced by william miller (framer of the failed prediction of christ's return which triggered the great disappointment) includes nelson barbour.. nelson barbour.

  one major influence on russell's beliefs during this time was nelson barbour of rochester, new york.

  barbour was the publisher of the adventist magazine, the midnight cry which had a circulation of 15,000. it proclaimed that jesus would return visibly in 1874. when jesus didn't return, barbour was at first puzzled.

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  digderidoo

  This is interesting stuff.

  Do you know if the article of 1914 shown on the front cover of the Adventist magazine was written by Barbour or Russell?

  Paul
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  Blind salamanders - any creationists up to a challenge?

  by sir82 in

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  interesting article on slate.com:.

  http://www.slate.com/id/2195683/.

  any creationists out there up to a challenge?.

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  digderidoo

  Thanks MJ. That's a better way of wording it than i have.

  Paul
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  Blind salamanders - any creationists up to a challenge?

  by sir82 in

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  interesting article on slate.com:.

  http://www.slate.com/id/2195683/.

  any creationists out there up to a challenge?.

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  digderidoo

  That's a rather odd definition of evolution, isn't it? I'm not aware of anyone who defines "evolution" as "the process by which salamanders become elephants".

  Ok that was a touch of sarcasm. However what i have pointed out is that it hasn't changed species.

  Vestigial eyes, for example, are clear evidence that these cave salamanders must have had ancestors who were different from them—had eyes, in this case. That is evolution .

  That may not be evolution is my point. If there were two ancestors that had the same characteristics in that they were blind, this could be passed on through the generations. There are different definations of evolution, for me survival of the fittest or poorest in this case, can harmonise with a creationist's view.

  A rather crude, but essentially true, definition of evolution is "genetic changes over time". There are 500+ different species of salamander. Did God create 500 different species of salamander? If so,

  Why on earth would God create a salamander with vestiges of eyes? If he wanted to create blind salamanders, why not just create blind salamanders? Why give them dummy eyes that don't work and that look as though they were inherited from sighted ancestors?

  As i have pointed out there are different definitions of evolution. Did God create 500 different species of salamander? This is the essential question we debate.

  If the answer is "no, he didn't create 500+ species of salamander"....watch your step! You have just become an "evolutionist".

  In your view.

  Take the canary for instance. In the wild the only variety you get is green. From these green varieties man has interbred them to produce all the different varieties we see in a pet shop. Does this mean the canary has evolved? Of course not, it is still a canary.

  Paul
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  Blind salamanders - any creationists up to a challenge?

  by sir82 in

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  interesting article on slate.com:.

  http://www.slate.com/id/2195683/.

  any creationists out there up to a challenge?.

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  digderidoo

  May be the ancestors of the salamanders that had eyes went towards the light and a couple of ones with deformities in their eyes didn't.

  They are still salamanders just blind, they haven't changed species, they haven't become frogs, lizards, fish, elephants or monkeys.

  Paul
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  Thanks to each and everyone of you

  by StoneWall in

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  after many months of lurking and researching on oh so many different topics, doubts, concerns, and viewpoints i decided to get my feet wet and start posting.

  many times i wished to contribute something to a thread but was to apprehensive to get an account.

  then as time passed and i read many more of the post from various members the uneasiness subsided somewhat and my desire to proceed into previously uncharted waters grew.

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  digderidoo

  Hello and welcome to the board.

  Paul
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  Does your cat eat anything that you consider unusual?

  by PEC in

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  carmel, likes popcorn, green olives and blueberry waffles.. snickers, likes watermelon, cantaloupe and hawaiian bread.. what does your cat eat?

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  philip.

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  Bats!

  Paul
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  How Do JWs Treat You NOW?

  by minimus in

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  if a witness sees you, will they acknowledge you, ignore you, be nice to you, or treat you as dead?

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  Mostly they treat me as though i am disfellowshipped which i am not.......unless they want their windows cleaning of course then it's an entirely different matter.

  Paul
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  Urgent health alert.

  by IP_SEC in

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  dangerous chemical dihydrogen monoxide now found in every river, lake, and ocean on the planet.

  it was only a matter of time.. http://www.dhmo.org/.

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  Holy poopsicles. THere are poisonous chemicals in the WATER??? The air, trees, earth, babies, space, and vegetables I can live with.. but WATER? Is nothing sacred?

  Has the penny dropped yet?

  Paul
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  "If you are Christian you are definately Trinitarian"

  by Sirona in

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  my jw mother thinks that all christians (non jws who call themselves christian) are all trinitarian.. i tried to point out that there are certain groups who are not trinitarian, but she seemed to think that all christian groups in babylon the great believe in the trinity.. is it true that only fringe groups reject the trinity?.

  sorry for my ignorance but i don't know much about mainstream christianity.. i would like to email her (my mum) a list of religions which reject the trinity but are also christian.

  i also heard of groups who believe and preach about jehovah as gods name.. sirona.

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  Many christians i come across debate this one, some believe and some don't. Not all religions are like the JW's...many actually allow and encourage debate. It's easy to think that all religions have members that have to believe a heirarchy, when the reality is Christians make their own mind up what they believe following thoughtful debate. Bit like Russell really

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  Gettin educated

  by JehovahIsPissed in

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  hi, im new to posting, i'm working on fading out slowly and planning on beggining a college career, but raised a jw, and was homeschooled.

  or any scholastic awards, and also money is not exactly growing on trees.

  anyone here been in a similar position?

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  digderidoo

  Hi and welcome to the board.

  I do not know what resources are available to you with regards to grants etc. It's worth looking into. In the UK we have courses that enable you to get into university without the need for academic qualifications. I don't know if you have anything similar in your country. They usually take a year to complete or two years part time.

  There are also many options for online home study degrees. I am registered on one myself, that way i can fit my work around it and finance it that way.

  Paul