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  I'm over my pouting now.......may I come back?

  by journey-on in

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  i disassociated myself from this board a month ago, regrouped, caught up on necessary business, and now i want to come back.

  you newbies won't remember the circumstances, but you "oldies but goodies" will.

  is it okay if i return.

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  digderidoo

  Have you been sitting at the back and listening to the talks on a regular basis?

  Paul
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  Would You Go Back?

  by Dune in

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  yesterday, my aunt was talking to one of my siblings about how things have been changing in our [ex] congregation for the 'better'.. she mentioned how a new circuit overseer has come in and is shaking things up.

  the co appointed a ministerial servant (someone, the po & secretary didn't like and i know would never have voluntarily suggested appointment) and some of the 'brothers' that have had no 'responsibility' ever are being given #4 talks.

  she also mentioned that the book study will be cancelled and the meetings are being shortened.. a ministerial servant who had a vendetta against some of the elders wants me to talk to a co and basically tell him i left the congregation [and the religion] because of the incompetence of the elders.. i'm not talking to the co and i'm not 'blaming' anyone.

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  digderidoo

  I did go back to a few meetings recently after an abscence of 10 years plus. I left under a bit of cloud all those years ago and felt as though i needed to go back to re-examine it from the inside. It's a long story that i won't go into here.

  But upon going back it made me realise that it was all BS. I was listening from a different point of view now after all the things i've learnt.

  For me i needed to go back to put the final nail in the coffin, i didn't regret it and am glad i did. I now feel closure.

  Paul
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  Everyone give a big Welcome to Fern, she is one of our newest members

  by StoneWall in

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  fern welcome to jwd!!!.

  may your stay be a long and eventful one.

  i too am a newly associated one so glad to have you on board.

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  digderidoo

  Hello Fern and welcome to the board.

  Paul
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  LYNCHPIN doctrine on 1914 NOT from "faithful and discreet slave"--stolen!

  by Terry in

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  the "chain of evidence" which links jehovah's witnesses with adventist die-hards influenced by william miller (framer of the failed prediction of christ's return which triggered the great disappointment) includes nelson barbour.. nelson barbour.

  one major influence on russell's beliefs during this time was nelson barbour of rochester, new york.

  barbour was the publisher of the adventist magazine, the midnight cry which had a circulation of 15,000. it proclaimed that jesus would return visibly in 1874. when jesus didn't return, barbour was at first puzzled.

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  digderidoo

  This is interesting stuff.

  Do you know if the article of 1914 shown on the front cover of the Adventist magazine was written by Barbour or Russell?

  Paul
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  Blind salamanders - any creationists up to a challenge?

  by sir82 in

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  interesting article on slate.com:.

  http://www.slate.com/id/2195683/.

  any creationists out there up to a challenge?.

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  digderidoo

  Thanks MJ. That's a better way of wording it than i have.

  Paul
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  Blind salamanders - any creationists up to a challenge?

  by sir82 in

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  interesting article on slate.com:.

  http://www.slate.com/id/2195683/.

  any creationists out there up to a challenge?.

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  digderidoo

  That's a rather odd definition of evolution, isn't it? I'm not aware of anyone who defines "evolution" as "the process by which salamanders become elephants".

  Ok that was a touch of sarcasm. However what i have pointed out is that it hasn't changed species.

  Vestigial eyes, for example, are clear evidence that these cave salamanders must have had ancestors who were different from them—had eyes, in this case. That is evolution .

  That may not be evolution is my point. If there were two ancestors that had the same characteristics in that they were blind, this could be passed on through the generations. There are different definations of evolution, for me survival of the fittest or poorest in this case, can harmonise with a creationist's view.

  A rather crude, but essentially true, definition of evolution is "genetic changes over time". There are 500+ different species of salamander. Did God create 500 different species of salamander? If so,

  Why on earth would God create a salamander with vestiges of eyes? If he wanted to create blind salamanders, why not just create blind salamanders? Why give them dummy eyes that don't work and that look as though they were inherited from sighted ancestors?

  As i have pointed out there are different definitions of evolution. Did God create 500 different species of salamander? This is the essential question we debate.

  If the answer is "no, he didn't create 500+ species of salamander"....watch your step! You have just become an "evolutionist".

  In your view.

  Take the canary for instance. In the wild the only variety you get is green. From these green varieties man has interbred them to produce all the different varieties we see in a pet shop. Does this mean the canary has evolved? Of course not, it is still a canary.

  Paul
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  Blind salamanders - any creationists up to a challenge?

  by sir82 in

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  interesting article on slate.com:.

  http://www.slate.com/id/2195683/.

  any creationists out there up to a challenge?.

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  digderidoo

  May be the ancestors of the salamanders that had eyes went towards the light and a couple of ones with deformities in their eyes didn't.

  They are still salamanders just blind, they haven't changed species, they haven't become frogs, lizards, fish, elephants or monkeys.

  Paul
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  Thanks to each and everyone of you

  by StoneWall in

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  after many months of lurking and researching on oh so many different topics, doubts, concerns, and viewpoints i decided to get my feet wet and start posting.

  many times i wished to contribute something to a thread but was to apprehensive to get an account.

  then as time passed and i read many more of the post from various members the uneasiness subsided somewhat and my desire to proceed into previously uncharted waters grew.

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  digderidoo

  Hello and welcome to the board.

  Paul
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  Does your cat eat anything that you consider unusual?

  by PEC in

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  carmel, likes popcorn, green olives and blueberry waffles.. snickers, likes watermelon, cantaloupe and hawaiian bread.. what does your cat eat?

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  philip.

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  digderidoo

  Bats!

  Paul
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  How Do JWs Treat You NOW?

  by minimus in

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  if a witness sees you, will they acknowledge you, ignore you, be nice to you, or treat you as dead?

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  digderidoo

  Mostly they treat me as though i am disfellowshipped which i am not.......unless they want their windows cleaning of course then it's an entirely different matter.

  Paul