long-time occasional lurker, first-time poster.
cliffs notes version: i'm thinking of da'ing in order to shake my family up a bit, even though i haven't been involved with jws in more than 10 years.
longer version: i was raised as a jw but never got baptized.
Welcome to the forum.
Echoing what's been said you haven't been baptised so you have nothing to DA yourself from. Only baptised JW's get to disassociate themselves.
You may well still feel some sort of connection because of your upbringing and it may be wise to stick around and debunk the JW myth, but as for you officially DA'ing yourself, you have nothing to DA yourself from as you never officially joined by getting baptised.
Paul
belgium branch pedophilia letter to the boe.
i have received recently the attached copy of a letter dated january 26 2000, which is supposed to be an official communication to all congregations in belgium, giving instructions on how to deal with pedophilia cases.. .
i am interested to understand if this letter, from the belgium branch, .
I wonder about the authenticity of the letter.
If it's addressed to Belgian congregations then why is it in English and not French?
It ends with 'Being by your side in your beautiful pastoral work...'. I have never heard JW's refer to their work as pastoral, that sounds more Christianity type of phrase.
Paul
since i don't have the answer perhaps you guys could supply some?.
I will pass on what somebody told me.
Another name for Christmas day is Friday.
Paul
sorry to rehash an old topic.. in the first year of his reign, i, daniel, understood from the scriptures, according to the word of the lord given to jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of jerusalem would last seventy years.
daniel is clearly speaking of jeremiah 25, but here he speaks of the desolation of jerusalem, rather than a babylonian dominance of jeremiah.. so how does daniel fit in with a 587/6 date for the destruction of jerusalem and the dominance of the babylonian empire refered to in jeremiah?.
paul.
Thanks Ann.
JCanon, i have asked about Daniel 9:2, not about Josephus....if you have something to say on the matter stick to Daniel, rather than your own Messianic agenda.
Paul
sorry to rehash an old topic.. in the first year of his reign, i, daniel, understood from the scriptures, according to the word of the lord given to jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of jerusalem would last seventy years.
daniel is clearly speaking of jeremiah 25, but here he speaks of the desolation of jerusalem, rather than a babylonian dominance of jeremiah.. so how does daniel fit in with a 587/6 date for the destruction of jerusalem and the dominance of the babylonian empire refered to in jeremiah?.
paul.
Sorry to rehash an old topic.
in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, understood from the Scriptures, according to the word of the LORD given to Jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of Jerusalem would last seventy years.
Daniel is clearly speaking of Jeremiah 25, but here he speaks of the desolation of Jerusalem, rather than a Babylonian dominance of Jeremiah.
So how does Daniel fit in with a 587/6 date for the destruction of Jerusalem and the dominance of the babylonian empire refered to in Jeremiah?
Paul
i was having an interesting discussion with an xjw recently and we both knew of elders who were alcoholic but who were allowed to keep their privileges because their condition was described as a disease.
the elder i knew was also spotted in a drunken state on a couple of occasions.
he kept his privileges.
Alcoholism has no religious boundaries. It has no social boundaries, not status boundaries.....alcoholism isn't bothered about who it effects.
I have met hundreds of recovered alcoholics but know of only two who are ex jw's, one of those being myself. I also know of ex jw's that drink heavily, but then again i know of many heavy drinkers.
I think the effect of being in a controlling religion can be a trigger for an alcoholic, but i don't think being a JW causes someone to be an alcoholic.
Paul
has anyone else tried to add criticism to jehovah's witnesses on wikipedia, only to see it get edited out with a few hours?.
try it and see how quick it will get removed.
makes you wonder who's watching.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses.
Has anyone else tried to add criticism to Jehovah's Witnesses on Wikipedia, only to see it get edited out with a few hours?
Try it and see how quick it will get removed. Makes you wonder who's watching.
That is funny
is anyone familiar with these writings?.
i've just been looking them up after i was talking to someone about them.
as christianity took hold in the west, the east developed their own form of christianity.
Nobody??
is anyone familiar with these writings?.
i've just been looking them up after i was talking to someone about them.
as christianity took hold in the west, the east developed their own form of christianity.
Is anyone familiar with these writings?
I've just been looking them up after i was talking to someone about them. As Christianity took hold in the West, the East developed their own form of Christianity. This was fused with Buddhism and Toaism, mucht he same way as Roman Western Christianity was fused with pagan celebrations (Christmas/Saturnalia. etc). These ancient writings were found in the begining of the 20th century.
The theology presents Jesus as a way to freedom from the inevitable round of reincarnation and suffering which dominated that society. This Christianity is vegetarian, anti-slavery and killing in any way, gives equality to male and female and tells people that they are basically good. And it lives contended alongside other faiths.
Compare this with the Christianity of the same time in England. The original ideas in the life of Jesus are expressed through Greek and Roman culture, Christian symbols fuse with strange beasts and designs of Celtic art as can be seen in the Lindisfarne gospels. This Christianity accepts the warfare, slavery and male dominance of western society. It tells people that they are basically bad because of Adam and Eve and "original sin". And it seeks to be the only religion.
At the time of the Jesus Sutras Christianity was an eastern religion; there were more Christians east of the Holy Land than there were to the west. But there had been a theological argument over the nature of Christ so that the west disconnected itself from the eastern Christians and labelled them Nestorian heretics. There was also the political split between the western idea of Christianity run as the Roman Empire had been and the east where different areas (Indian, Persia, Tibet, China) had always been politically independent.
As somebody who has an interest in Buddhism and Eastern philosophy, i'm definately going to order myself a copy as it looks a good read.
