I wondered if anyone has any information here as to the numbers of JW's in 1935.
I am assuming that the numbers were closing in on 144,000 so Rutherford had to come up with this new idea of a great crowd, would i be correct in this assumption?
Paul
i wondered if anyone has any information here as to the numbers of jw's in 1935.. i am assuming that the numbers were closing in on 144,000 so rutherford had to come up with this new idea of a great crowd, would i be correct in this assumption?.
paul.
I wondered if anyone has any information here as to the numbers of JW's in 1935.
I am assuming that the numbers were closing in on 144,000 so Rutherford had to come up with this new idea of a great crowd, would i be correct in this assumption?
Paul
i have never smoked or used any tobacco products aside from puffing on a cigar a few times (maybe 5 times in my life).
even with the few cigar experiences (which i did not enjoy much) i never noticed any real "feeling" from the tobacco.
what is it supposed to feel like?
I only ever smoked in a social setting. I could always go without for days on end, but then when others smoked it set me off. For me, i started smoking marijuana which got me into cigarettes, rolling up a joint with tobacco made me want to smoke tobacco alone eventually.
Now though i don't smoke anything, but i found after a few days of not smoking, that first cigarette gave me a nicotine rush and a feeling of calm.
Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1khrf02ups.
makes me proud of my welsh blood.. paul.
i once was a witness.
i once was a witness.
and went from door to door.
Beautiful poem, thank you
Paul
this is terrible.
i stumbled across it whilst searching watchtower.org for their 'new light' on the faithful and discreet slave.. it seems to be instructions from 1995 as to how to deal with an accusation of child abuse, i have bolded the parts i found sickening.
when the samaritan came along, his heart went out to the wounded man.
On this background this article was written. It does deal with these false memories, NOT with real abuse. I do not necessarily support the weak attitude by the WT towards child abuse, but in THIS case, the accusations you make are wrong. ... TheOldHippie
What accusations are wrong? Do you mean the instructions on how to deal with the alleged abuser that i have highlighted, the instructions on what the elders can do or perhaps something else?
Paul
Come 2014 they will mention it less and less until it goes into oblivion. They will never make a comment that they have dropped it though, much like all the other years 1799,1874,1925,1975 have not been mentioned since.
Paul
as witnesses we were taught it was meant an invisible presence, i wondered what the scholars here thought of this verse now?.
paul.
As witnesses we were taught it was meant an invisible presence, i wondered what the scholars here thought of this verse now?
Paul
does anyone have the latest info on what the society is now saying as to the governing body being the slave class?.
i believe it's in the latest watchtower article but do not have the magazine myself.. could someone perhaps post up the article or section of the article?
as i'm having this conversation with a couple of jw's.. paul.
Does anyone have the latest info on what the society is now saying as to the Governing Body being the slave class?
I believe it's in the latest Watchtower article but do not have the magazine myself.
Could someone perhaps post up the article or section of the article? As i'm having this conversation with a couple of JW's.
Paul
this is terrible.
i stumbled across it whilst searching watchtower.org for their 'new light' on the faithful and discreet slave.. it seems to be instructions from 1995 as to how to deal with an accusation of child abuse, i have bolded the parts i found sickening.
when the samaritan came along, his heart went out to the wounded man.
Maybe it's because repressed memories are unreliable....George11
Hi george, welcome to the forum.
I think what is noteworthy of the article is that when someone has brought abuse to the attention of the elders, that the article is emphasising the fact that these memories could be imaginitive or 'false memories'.
Your link is correct they do exist. But if someone were to come to me with an allegation of childhood abuse my immediate thought would not be that the abused person is imagining false memories, but rather i would want to comfort that person and bring to justice the perpertrator. If it went along the lines of a false memory that is another matter, this article seems to be concerned with this false memory syndrome as opposed to anything else, it seems to make it an assumption when an allegation is made.
Notice the article too states the fact that two or more witnesses need to be present if there is a dispute, that even if two or more allegations are made on seperate incidents that wouldn't be sufficient for judicial matters. The very nature of abuse means that two witnesses would not be present.
This unfortunately is Watchtower policy which is taken from their site. This is why the Watchtower has settled many disputes with compensation on out of court settlements, all the information is out there for the general public.
I think it's a shame that an abused child/person can go to the elders with an allegation, that the elders will consider false memories and then if the perpetrator denies the allegation nothing more is done due to the two witness rule. This has actually happened, with a policy like this it is to be expected.
I would encourage to think about this policy with reference say to the Catholic church. If you came across this policy within the Catholic church would you criticise it, make excuses for it or try to defend it?
Paul
fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too .
cna yuo raed tihs?
olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
Cut and pstae lamo