Posts by done4good

i'm sharing the content of this discussion so that maybe someone else can see the ignorance of this horrible religion of people who cannot really love because their evil bible won't let them.

done4good

He is right nobody is forced to do anything, that was a decision each and everyone of us made when we were part of it. Live with it. Then most of you will start saying 'Oh well, if I didn't comply I would've been labeled as a spiritual weak person.' Once again, So What??? Where's the downside of doing your own thing and not following what others say. They won't talk to you anymore? LOL, if that's it sign me up I don't mind not being talked to if I didn't agree with something and didn't want to do it.

Frankly R6, that's very narrow minded and cold. Your attitude is the greatest witness against what you believe, and it's people like you that CONFIRM the WTS is full of shit. IF you're no longer one of jws, then what are you trying to prove? IF you still are, then be honest enough to state that clearly. I tend to see you can do neither. Your dishonest and/or cold position is very telling.

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JWs worried about the tract campaign?

by fullofdoubtnow in

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i got this from the reachout trust website.

this is what a jw poster said the other day about the new tract campaign:.

i was wondering when reading the new tract (kn37) after last nights meeting how this will go down on the doors.

done4good

The witnesses are going to find their stance on many things is not going to be tolerated much by many people anymore. Too many subjects, (such as homosexual marriage), are just too controversial in the minds of many people, and the witnesses can very easily be written off as bigots if they bring that kind of stuff up. Good luck.

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Was Being A Witness, All THAT Bad???

by minimus in

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i mean, you could've been made to be an islamic fundamentalist or something, right?

done4good

If instead, do you mean, did you mind being misled, wasting your life, having your thinking,
behaviour, and sex life controlled, YES, I DID MIND. IT WAS AWFUL.

Damn right.

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Let's just get something straight about 1975.

by WTFBBQPWNT in

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nobody ever said that the end was coming in 1975.. all the hype about this date that has continued all the way down through today came from a talk in the early 70's by fred franz.

in this talk, franz pointed out the significance of the 7 creative days and how they correspond with 1,000-year time intervals.. he then said, "could the end come in 1975?

there's so much wrong with jehovah's witnesses from their rigid legalism to their faux love, but let's call a spade a spade about the 1975 thing..

done4good

Would a 36 year old tape still be playable?

As long as it was kept in a temperate environment with not too much humidity, it should be OK.

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After you left JWs how did you work out what you believe now

by awol in

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i left jws 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted.

never df'd.

could never go back as i personally found it too hard to live up to.

done4good

Hi Awol,

First of all, take a deep breath. You were finally able to get passed the hardset two steps, leaving and LEARNING the wts is false. Many people accomplish the first one, scarce few the second. Before the internet, such information was much harder to come by, so when someone left the org, because of being "burnt out", they blamed it on themselves, "Well, I just couldn't do it", many have said. You are already passed that point, so kudos.

As far as working out a belief system, while not HARDER than either of the two first steps, it does take much LONGER. In the wts, we had a simple answer for everything. In the real world, no such simple answers to life exist. We have to make life meaningful, is basically what I'm trying to get at. Study history, as it pretains to religion, and what you will find, if you dig hard and long enough, is that religion is merely a tool used partially to develop moral codes, and partially to explain the unexplainable. I'm not teTELLING you what to believe, that is something you need to develop for yourself. It is FAR more rewarding that way. Have fun with this, really.

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Question: Demons

by ladybug25 in

growing up, i remember hearing stories from my own parents and others in the congregation about experiences with demons.

sister x wore a t-shirt that she purchased at a second hand store and the demons attached themselves to the shirt and gave her problems.

certain movies and/or cds would give a family problems.

done4good

In reality, of course, demons do not exist. They are simply used, like their "good" counterparts, angels, to "explain" certain phenomena. In modern western society, the number of unexplained phenomena is much lower than in more primitive times and places, which, thankfully dilutes the harm of such beliefs. For example, we now (mostly) understand diseases such as epilepsy and schizophrenia and realise they can be better treated by doctors than priests. The danger arises when someone comes across an unexplained phenomenon, or one they are unfamiliar with - such as sleep paralysis, the likely cause of dido's experiences - and due to religious indoctrination, assumes demons to be the cause. Sometimes that doesn't matter too much, as there is an imaginary cure to go with the imaginary cause of the imaginary affliction. The right incantation to the right deity vanquishes the demons. Sometimes, however, the affects of this absurd belief are not so neutral. People may live in fear for years due to something as mundane as a clanking water pipe, because they have been conditioned to believe they are engaged in a spiritual war with invisible enemies. Or worse, they may avoid treatment for a real medical condition because they - and their loved ones - believe it to be a demon attack. Aren't we advanced enough to throw of the shackles of primitive superstition? There are no invisible people waging war for our souls, no spirits trapped in old houses, no incubi or succubi wanting to breed with us. There is only reality - actual, hard, cold, measurable, understandable, beautiful reality.

Amen!

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The Internet: A greater threat to the WTS than we ever dreamed

by Elsewhere in

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change "politician" to "watchtower leadership" and "voter" to "jehover's witness".

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20061004/2006-10-04t005304z_01_l03419567_rtridst_0_news-google-politicians-dc.html.

google boss warns politicians about internet power.

done4good

if you look at the world wide rate of publisher growth reported for the past 20 years, it looks consistent in slowly dropping.
I don't see "the internet effect" in the graph as any acceleration while it became popular during that period.

I'm not so sure about that. In the late '80s there were a little over 3,000,000 in the org, by 2002, that number DOUBLED to 6,000,000. That was in a 14 year peiod, or so. In the last 4 years, the org has not seen growth at anything close to that rate. In fact, the growth from 5-6 mil was much slower than the 3-5 between 1988 and 1995, or so.

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WELCOME MY AWESOME FRIEND BODHISATTVA!!!!!

by Good Girl or Bad Girl? in

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http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/member/24752.ashx.

this is one cool (and hot) chick, y'all.

give her a warm welcome.. luv ya, boddhi, xxoo, gg/bg.

done4good

GO CHIEFS!!!

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