Yes, the contrarian nature of the org pretty much started with Rutherford, and has continued since. A religion of non-beliefs.
j
even as a kid i couldn't shake the feeling that the literature taught in negatives--- instead of advocating for a position, it seemed to be defending it and attacking.
an opposing position.
it seemed like they always had to beat up on something or someone to make their point..
Yes, the contrarian nature of the org pretty much started with Rutherford, and has continued since. A religion of non-beliefs.
j
just a fluffy question ~~~.
were you a freak?
jock?
I was pretty invisable in high school. I got along with everyone okay, just didn't get too close to anyone. Typical witness. A very liberal jw older friend of mine forced me to go to college against my "know it all" jw will. I thank him to this day. Unfortunately, it is me trying to be his voice of reason today, and he dosen't quite get it.
j
..yup, just want to say hi to you all.. i m a new "face" in your territory..so far!
all the way from scandinavia..seems like there are most north americans here, but hopefully i am welcome anyways ;).
soon to be 30 year old (!
Welcome, Jen!
j
edited because someone came through with the picture and i think this deserves it's own topic.. i am deathly, i mean deathly afraid of snakes.
most people don't understand or grasp the exent i am afraid of them until they see the ultimate reaction.
my husband witnessed the worst one since we have been together the other week.
Actually, I thought all of the books back then looked pretty creepy. I believe the bible story book was the first attempt at using full color, so yes, the images were more graphic than most of the other books. But the two color printings of the other books actually seemed creepier to me, for some reason. I remember my father commenting on these, (a non-jw), saying they looked very amatuer.
j
after managing a successful fade, the long thread started by nvrgnbk made me think a bit.
up until then, i maintained a fairly hardline stance that the borg would need to d/f me if they really wanted me "out".
but then, i began to consider a few things.
Thanks, everyone for your replies and wishes of luck. I don't regret this decision one bit. I guess it's a little too early in the week to celebrate though...
what's the main motivating force behind the average jw?.
i'd say it's a fear of their own death.
fear of dying.
Fear.
j
from time to time we hear that the ex jws should have organised themselves to a high level and that doesn't necessarily mean setting up another religion in opposition to the wts but some sort of rather secular organisation to carry out that task.
no doubt this lack of organisation plays in the hands of the wts who escape the nightmare of a highly organised efficient opposition.
the rough treatment of ex members in my opinion is intentional and aims at emotionally stunning them to pre empt the possibility of them having a clear mind with which to fight their fraudulent, cultic objectives.
In much the same way the unorganized free software community has flourished with the development of Linux, and hurting large Unix OS companies, such as Sun, the Internet is allowing the ex-jw market to flourish and is hurting the WTS. No need to organize here. This paradigm really does work.
j
after managing a successful fade, the long thread started by nvrgnbk made me think a bit.
up until then, i maintained a fairly hardline stance that the borg would need to d/f me if they really wanted me "out".
but then, i began to consider a few things.
Maybe a few references to the various questions might make it simpler to research for them.
I thought about that. But I reconsidered, because my intent is to make them think, and come to their own conclusions. Leading them to the answers seldom helps in dealing with these people.
j
btw: I just put it in the mail.
Welcome, Dave!
j
after managing a successful fade, the long thread started by nvrgnbk made me think a bit.
up until then, i maintained a fairly hardline stance that the borg would need to d/f me if they really wanted me "out".
but then, i began to consider a few things.
After managing a successful fade, the long thread started by nvrgnbk made me think a bit. Up until then, I maintained a fairly hardline stance that the borg would need to d/f me if they really wanted me "out". But then, I began to consider a few things. First of all, I DID manage a successful fade. No one calls me, and my family dosen't speak to me anyway. I have no vested interest in "officially" remaining a jw. There is simply no benefit to me anymore for doing so. I believe the congregation elders and the society should know my position, (and I DO feel an inner need to set the matter straight with myself), so I decided to d/a. Here is my letter, simple and to the point:
Dear Body of Elders:
This letter is to inform you that I no longer wish to be associated with Jehovah’s Witnesses. This decision has been made due to issues of both lack of integrity and honesty on the part of the organization. I suggest you do your own research, and come to your own conclusions.
Regards,
Jason P. Vanrell
Some Questions for Consideration:
1. Was Jerusalem really destroyed in 607 B.C.E.?
2. What was Beth Sarim?
3. What is a UN NGO and why would the Society want to be one?
4. What is the Society’s position on reporting known pedophiles in the congregation to the authorities?
5. What happened during the 1960’s and 1970’s with Malawi and Mexico?
6. What is Pyramidology? And why would Charles Taze Russell want to use this practice?
7. When was the idea of a Governing Body actually formed? Did the president and Vice President actually want this at the time of its inception?
8. What was the significance of 1874, 1881, 1925, or 1941?
9. Was C.T. Russell an Adventist?
10. Was Joseph Rutherford chosen to succeed Russell?