done4good

Joined

• started 24 topics
• posted 1,841 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by done4good

• 
  18

  How many changes since you have been out?

  by done4good in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pixel's boe letter made me think of this.

  i have been out since january 2006. here are the ones i can think of:.

  1. deletion of cong.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  All great examples everyone! Keep them coming...
• 
  39

  At what point did you destroy your Blood card?

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know for me it was soon after lurking here for awhile and reading some threads on the issue.

  i remenber when i tore it into little tiny pieces.

  it felt so liberating..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  It wasn't a conscious decision, but after the blood fractions article, I think they changed the wording on the card and I didn't sign a new one.

  GypsySpam -

  My experience was similar. I also never filled out or signed the proxy form for the same reason.

  d4g
• 
  84

  BOE Letter: New Adjustments

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  **this was predicted from some members here**.

  to all congregations .

  re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  ^^^^

  Yep, that sure does seem to be thier MO these days.
• 
  18

  How many changes since you have been out?

  by done4good in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pixel's boe letter made me think of this.

  i have been out since january 2006. here are the ones i can think of:.

  1. deletion of cong.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  Or for those of you still in, how many changes since learning TTATT? Sorry, did not mean to leave these folks out...
• 
  84

  BOE Letter: New Adjustments

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  **this was predicted from some members here**.

  to all congregations .

  re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  Man... Suprising they are opting for less mind control.. No more bookstudy, cutting assembly days.. Hopefully the midweek meeting is next but I dont see that happening.

  BU2B - WT cares about 2 things, control and money. Always follow the money when the WT appears to be relinquishing control.

  d4g
• 
  18

  How many changes since you have been out?

  by done4good in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pixel's boe letter made me think of this.

  i have been out since january 2006. here are the ones i can think of:.

  1. deletion of cong.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  Pixel's BOE letter made me think of this. I have been out since January 2006. Here are the ones I can think of:

  1. Deletion of cong. book study.

  2. PO is COBE

  3. Public talks 30 mins.

  4. Generation = anointed, (2008)

  5. Generation is 2 generations! (2010).

  6. No more 1935 sealing of anointed.

  7. Anointed numbers increasing year over year.

  8. GB = FDS

  9. Weird and creepy videos of all types.

  10. New NWT.

  11. jw.org

  12. Almost out of Brooklyn

  13. Several reductions in magazine content.

  14. Two versions of the WT.

  15. New song book with emphasis on GB.

  16. Major apostate paranioa.

  17. Since Sept. 2007 KM, constant increases in authoritarian control.

  I am sure there are many others, but I do not believe any 8 year period in the years I was involved had anything near this many "adjustments". Although this is purely anecdotal, usually when this level of change exists somewhere, it is the result of instability and problems afoot. Things do not look too good for the WTS in my estimation.

  d4g
• 
  9

  discussion with a friend

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently, i met an old friend for a coffee, he is a jw in good standing.. he does not know of my "awakening", but he knows, that i m pretty open with things.. so he came up with some thoughts, that, if somebody listened, would be enough for a jc on basis of apostasy.. since his english is not so good, i suppose he did not read this on the internet.. i just paraphrase some of his thoughts:.

  the creation account in genesis is not accurate and in line with science.

  a global flood was not possible.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  Good to hear Inbetween. I had some similar exchanges with two JW friends recently. I have been out for over 8 years, so I am not sure if it is just that I see things from a much clearer perspective than I used to, but I sense that the R&F are not too content with things lately from the discussions I have had.

  d4g
• 
  21

  Fastest TTATT ever, maybe!!!??

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs
  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  Terry -

  Nailed it again!

  I very recently had a discussion, (both written and verbal), with a an old JW friend, where I used the same argument, (although not nearly as eloquent and concise as yours), to make the point about the uselessness of arguing scripture or doctrine. In the end, her cognitive dissonance kicked in, but I believe that was only because the point was made clear to her.

  I could not agree more that it is not only a waste of time to debate interpretation based on a false premise, but also tends to prove to be counterproductive in the end due to the dishonest and unfactual nature of the content of the discussion.

  I will write more about this on a separate thread shortly. I am still a bit raw over the outcome with the specific friend, (someone whom I care about quite a bit).

  d4g
• 
  41

  What Motivates Jehovah's Witnesses To Stay In The Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe it is mostly guilt.

  many witnesses pioneer or "reach out" in the religion because they feel guilty.. they may feel they aren't doing enough.

  they may have secretly "sinned" against rules imposed by the organization.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  Why stay? Contrary to a popular view on here, I know that the very vast majority really believe it to be God's Organization, they think they are serving God.....so they do..

  Blues - I agree with that.

  That said, there still needs to be movtivation for that belief, (think most people tend to believe what they want to). Fear at many levels, from extenential anxiety to fear of loosing family, admitting they wasted many years and oppurtunities in life, etc. all serve to reinforce that belief. Add to that many of them have authoritarian personalities, (they need authority in thier lives), so they cannot easily overcome the inertia that prevents otherwise intelligent people from making a rational decison to leave. I know how hard it was for me.

  d4g
• 
  56

  Now predicting increase of anointed?

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this nugget in the may 2014 issue:.

  "are you moving ahead with jehovah's organization".

  ....at one time, the anointed remnant were like the little one, but their number grew as other spiritual israelites were brought into gods organization.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  done4good

  Hmmmm... That would make sense as to why they changed the F&DS from all anointed to just the GB.

  I agree with that.