Posts by Dino

a long time jw friend of ours told my husband today that he has already disassociated himself from the organization after seeing the proof of wt's immoral affair with the beast.. this was the last straw for him.. i wonder how many others this info is going to effect this way?.

we will see.. ranchette

Dino

Hey Trevor, in view of the limited time we may have to work with this golden opportunity, add me to the plagiarization column! Great letter, and thanks very much for the good work. Dino

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DOES WTS own Kingdom Halls?- Challenge

by Amazing in

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recently, the bonham, texas issue was discussed and comments were made that when the jws lost the hall in 1986 that the society then took deed ownership of kingdom halls to prevent another case like bonham from happening.. i challenged this as not being universally true, because long after the bonham case, i kept congregation files and we never made any deed transfers to the society, nor change our non-profit association charter to make the society a beneficiary in trust.. what i did yesterday: i am frequently involved with courts, judges, and legal matters, property titles, etc.

i checked on a kingdom hall at random near my office.

i ran a deed search and the title came up as being owned by the local congregation of jehovah's witnesses, and no mention was made of the watch tower society or any subsidiary corporations.. further, the kingdom hall in my analysis was purchased not long ago, but long after the bonham case.

Dino

Hello all, I should never have relied totally on my memory. That incident (in Bonham)was pre-internet and caused quite a stir among the bros.I have been busy doing research on what the BASIS was that Ralph Deal was able win the case against the society over the property involved. One nugget turned up but I will do further research to verify. When I get all ducks in a row it should be interesting. Dino

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Bonham, Texas

by TweetieBird in

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in another thread, someone stated: .

"also, a few years ago the wtbts was burned badly, albeit on a small scale, with the bonham, texas congregation declaring independence and siezing their own kingdom hall in the process.

since then, the wtbts has taken the appropriate legal steps to make sure that if any congregation splits, the assets will still belong to those faithful to the wtbts.

Dino

Hey Pork Chop, I called an ole' bud in Sherman Tx, which is about 25 miles west of Bonham. He said the exact same thing about R.D. People just plain hated the arrogant fellow according to him. BTW Pork Chop , I wonder if we know each other. I hail from Big D. Dino

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Bonham, Texas

by TweetieBird in

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in another thread, someone stated: .

"also, a few years ago the wtbts was burned badly, albeit on a small scale, with the bonham, texas congregation declaring independence and siezing their own kingdom hall in the process.

since then, the wtbts has taken the appropriate legal steps to make sure that if any congregation splits, the assets will still belong to those faithful to the wtbts.

Dino

Hello all!! Tweetiebird, The glorious Bonham incident occured in mid-1986. Since it is public record in the area, I will mention the name of the brother who got the ball rolling against the society. What a man! His name was Ralph Deal. Back in those days the society allowed a totally different legal structure for the governance of the local congregation. There were TRUSTEES who looked after the interests locally. If I remember right, there were a total of three families who followed Deal in the schism. But since the Kingdom Hall property was legally in effect deeded to the trustees, the WT had no legal leg to stand on. From that time on congs were all incorporated under the WTBTS of New York (in the US).Local elders are elected to hold the offices of president, vice-pres, and secretary by the local body of elders.Today the hall involved is a duplex apartment and the local cong. is still affected by all that went on back in 1986 from what I hear. But it is still fully functioning with about 60 pubs. Ciao for now Dino

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Condolences

by Farkel in

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i want to take this opportunity to express my love and thanks to all of you who have generously offered to support me during this time in my life, both financially and emotionally.. i haven't been in a position to respond to any of my e-mail yet, but i promise i will do so soon.

i read the eulogy for my father i posted here to my mother and she clarified a few points and told me that she would like to have it read at my father's memorial service!.

for those who have expressed a desire to sent flowers or cards in behalf of my father and his family, you can do so at the address below.

Dino

Love ya Farkel, Thanks again for keeping in touch at such a bad time. Dino

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"Waiting on Jehovah"

by jst2laws in

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my friends,.

i just finished a holiday week-end with old friends in the organization.

all they knew when they came was that i had recently resigned as a elder.

Dino

Hey Just2, Who loves you baby. You're getting close to being out. You may feel lost, and when you do make the final break God will make your way apparent. Farkel gives some good advice to not play their game of DA/DF. Maybe fading away is more appropriate for your circumstances. Of course, every case is different. The big thing is how to do the most damage to the org. One suggestion. Have you shown them the linking of UN and WT? Anyhow, keep us posted my man!! Dino