it is interesting to read the posts here.
people desperately trying to convince themselves that they were right to give up!.
is this your purpose in coming here????.
I have no doubt some have had bad experiecnes within the organisation. But this does not change the fact that this is the truth.
Baahaahahahahahahahahahahahah. Thanks. I needed a laugh today. "The Truth." Oh how I have come to HATE those F'ing words. You can take your truth and stick it pal.
wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a world were religion/cults did not get in the way of family relations?
i have now gotten the "cold shoulder" for almost two weeks from my wife of almost 28 years.
i'm sure it has something to do with finally telling her the elders can kiss my ass, and that i don't want to be there when the kool-aid comes out.
Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a world were religion/cults did not get in the way of family relations? I have now gotten the "cold shoulder" for almost two weeks from my wife of almost 28 years. I'm sure it has something to do with finally telling her the Elders can kiss my ass, and that I don't want to be there when the Kool-Aid comes out. (Hey, she pushed and pushed, and I finally told her exactly how I feel...and I never raised my voice.) This is very sad, because (not tooting my horn here) but she could have done a lot worse. It must be hell having a husband who does not drink, smoke, cuss, gamble, chase skirts, and who HATES to watch football, and helps clean the house! BUT....I have made it clear that I no longer consider myself a good little JW automoton, and I'm paying the price. It is almost like the Elders have told her to limit her association with me! I wonder? I can only wonder where this will lead. Sad.
i almost had to sneeze and scream bullshit when i heard this.
the brother giving the talk said that the society has never made a prediction about when the end would come.
he said people just read what the society published, and added their own thoughts to it!!!
We're still keeping an eye on ya though.
i guess its good that i now know where i stand with at least one of my disfellowshiped sons.
) i told him (in a joking tone just to feel him out) today that i really would like to know the names of the brothers on the committee that df'ed him.
he asked why, and i told him that i thought they might like a gift subscription to playgirl.
I had one of those rare fights (fight is a strong word, as I love my wife, and don't like to upset her.) with my wife a few days ago. She actually started in on me - this sometimes happens after she spends the day with her true believing Dad and Mom.) But this is always a mistake for her, and I told her that whatever she got me to say was only going to upset her. But no, she couldn't leave it alone because in her words "we are right and you are wrong, and the end is SO CLOSE!" So it ended just as I thought it would, with her upset. I think it had something to do with the fact that I told her the Elders (or Glorious Ones) could kiss my shinny pink ass, and they were nothing but a bunch of uneducated "gas pumpers" that were enjoying the only power and prestiege they were ever going to see. I think I then made some mention about not wanting to be around when the "Kool-Aid" came out.
I know I shoud have just kept my mouth shut, but it is so hard sometimes when she starts in on me about ....how my Mom is going to miss me in the new system....how the Society only wants the best for us, and that the Elders are loving sheppards...or how the "Faithful And Discreet Slave" get their info right from Jehovah (but oh no, they are not inspired.) Oh and how any or all of my thoughts have come from those APOSTATE "chat rooms."
Funny thing....I have been in many online forums, but never a "chat room."
i guess its good that i now know where i stand with at least one of my disfellowshiped sons.
) i told him (in a joking tone just to feel him out) today that i really would like to know the names of the brothers on the committee that df'ed him.
he asked why, and i told him that i thought they might like a gift subscription to playgirl.
I believe there is a phase of deprogramming in which the person speaks the party line but doesn't believe it.
Good point. And it is probably true for a LOT of JW's. I know that is how I was for a long time.
i almost had to sneeze and scream bullshit when i heard this.
the brother giving the talk said that the society has never made a prediction about when the end would come.
he said people just read what the society published, and added their own thoughts to it!!!
My point was that the U.S. claimed to have won the war and this was taught to generations of school childen, almost none of whom were informed that the U.S. Capitol had been razed by British troops.
I understand where you are coming from. - Kinda makes you wonder what the Brits must have to say about that disagreement with the "colonies" awhile back.
But I had been taught in school (back in the day) that the Brits had indeed sacked Washington and burned most of the public buildings. So it was no suprise to me.
But like Washington burning, if you are a TRUE beleiving JW, 1975 never really happened right?
i guess its good that i now know where i stand with at least one of my disfellowshiped sons.
) i told him (in a joking tone just to feel him out) today that i really would like to know the names of the brothers on the committee that df'ed him.
he asked why, and i told him that i thought they might like a gift subscription to playgirl.
The apology was immediate and sincere.
My son shares my sense of humor. We have always been close, (he has always been my little buddy) and though I never spoke about the fact that I no longer was a "true believer," (not allowed) he of course knew. - Not going to meetings is kinda a dead give away. This incident actually did what it was intended to do, - let me know where my son stands. I was just bummed to learn his eyes are still closed. - He actually believes the Elders did what was best for him.
This for some reason reminds me of the scene in Animal House where the guy was getting beat with a large wooden paddle, saying with each stroke "THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!"
i almost had to sneeze and scream bullshit when i heard this.
the brother giving the talk said that the society has never made a prediction about when the end would come.
he said people just read what the society published, and added their own thoughts to it!!!
But there it was in the history books.
Would these be the same books that tell us that our government is a democracy? (And not a Representative Republic?)
True they burned the White House, but they hardly "won the war."
"In one of the most important battles of the war, American naval forces, under the command of Commodore MacDonough, defeat a British fleet on Lake Champlain. The American naval victory forces the British to withdraw, and thus ends the British invasion." http://www.historycentral.com/1812/champlain.html
i guess its good that i now know where i stand with at least one of my disfellowshiped sons.
) i told him (in a joking tone just to feel him out) today that i really would like to know the names of the brothers on the committee that df'ed him.
he asked why, and i told him that i thought they might like a gift subscription to playgirl.
I'm not hurting abuot it so badly right now, so I build you up. Next month, maybe I'll need you to tell me what I just told you, yeah?
You gotta a deal my friend. Manoman, sometimes life just really sucks. It really does feel like when you are already down, somewhere, somehow, someone is going to find a way to kick you in the nuts. I have got so much on my plate right now, with 12 units of college, the homework, my job, my psycho neighbor, and now this little "insult to injury." Sometimes I feel like I should just quit talking altogether, and live in a little shell.
i guess its good that i now know where i stand with at least one of my disfellowshiped sons.
) i told him (in a joking tone just to feel him out) today that i really would like to know the names of the brothers on the committee that df'ed him.
he asked why, and i told him that i thought they might like a gift subscription to playgirl.
Give it time, m'good man. Give it time. He's YOUR son, after all. Keep that in mind, and give it time.
Thanks Auldy. It just hurts sometimes more than others when I think about the fact that I'm not allowed to voice my opinion to my wife or kids. I have heard "keep those thoughts to yourself" more than anyone should have to.
And the sad thing is that most of the times I have been told that, it for asking simple questions like "how can the Society be spirit directed, and at the same time not be inspired?"
Yup, I'm to keep evil apostate thoughts like that to myself!
