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  Bumpy weekend ahead

  by krejames in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my sister is coming to stay this weekend.

  although i'm sure she knows i'm not going to meetings, i don't know whether she realised i will not be going to any more meetings.

  not looking forward to that time on sunday when i tell her she's going on her own.

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  gymbob

  I was in your shoes a few years ago, I decided to go to the KH, DIDN'T wear a tie, and tried to comment at the WT study! It was fun! :)
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  Did Jesus really exist?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had been wondering over the past few years whether there really was a historical jesus at all, until a few months ago when i read bart ehrman's latest book "did jesus exist?

  " initially i was persuaded by his argument that the nt contains multiple sources that testify to jesus' existence.

  but more recently i have been reading the christ myth position of richard carrier and his responses to ehrman.

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  gymbob

  Yes, but not the biblical Jesus. There was a very charismatic teacher named Jesus (a common name at the time) who moved people to think and feel. He never performed any miracles. His taught kindness and caring for others, and he had a good following.
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  TRULY... !!!!!

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in both question and statement form, one word thats overused to the point of nausea is truly.

  - is that truly the case?

  got new for whoever is asking; either that is the case or that is not the case.

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  gymbob

  It's from listening to too many District convention talks...
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  Hi Everyone

  by Skbj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello people,

  i'd like to start by saying wow!

  i've only just discovered this "world" of ex jw's so i'm still catching up on lots of stuff, my story is a bit long so don't know if people have patience to read :p but if you can bear the reading then i'm happy to share.

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  gymbob

  Great story! Thank you for sharing!!
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  Attention Lurkers- Consider the effectiveness of your lifesaving work

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hypothetical scenario.

  you are a city manager in a major metropolitan city with a population of 3,000,000.. .

  if the governing body was truly convinced themselves of the impending disaster and the fact that the end is imminent would they not focus their efforts in spreading the message through effective means such as telephone, television, internet, social networks etc?

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  gymbob

  I remember about 12-14 years ago (when I was still a dub) I saw a brief TV commercial for the JW's. At first I thought it was for the Mormons, and was very surprised to hear, "visit your local Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses" at the end. Not sure where it came from, and never saw it again...
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  Feel the Goddamned Love

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mil of 38 years - who has not spoken to me for the 9 years since i left her cult - died on sunday.. today, as a favor to my sil who has spoken to me very rarely, for the same reasons, over the same period of time, i was moving some personal items to her home from the nursing home.

  in this instance i guess it is ok to speak with me - if i have a strong back and a conveyance that aids her needs at the moment.. anyway, in the parking lot of the apartment complex where she lives, while we are moving in those items, guess who shows up?

  five or six of my old 'best friends'.

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  gymbob

  You're a better man than me Jeff. My parents did the same to me a few years ago in a restaurant. The moment they saw me, they got up and walked out ignoring my "hello mom/dad....hello?" THEN they start being all sweet and friendly to my wife (they had never met her) invite her to the meetings and started sending her literature! Man....was I pissed. Oh yeah, I want to go back to THAT religion!
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  The Decline of Elders and Ministerial Servants

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i seem to remember somebody saying that since the 90's the number of elders has declined from 90000 to 60000. does anybody have any hard figures regarding this?.

  the organization is desperate for "qualified" men.

  but their standards are much too high, especially the monthly field service hour requirements tagged on to endless meetings and congregational busywork.

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  Why do you think almost every church PAYS for a pastor/preacher, etc? It's a job. It takes a lot of time. And like most jobs, it's a pain in the a**!
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  This site: Jehovah's Witnesses refute! Deals with apostate accusations

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses refute!

  nederlandse versie.

  "the heart of the righteous one.

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  gymbob

  Exactly Sizemik...That's also why they don't want members talking to anyone who has left, or people at the door who ask questions. It, "Will generate an unintended negative effect".
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  All Conti docs & Zalkin's out-of-court settlement docs now on watchtowerdocuments.com

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  they are pdf, searchable and downloadable.. http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/cases/zalkin.html.

  http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/cases/conti.html.

  barbara and joe.

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  gymbob

  Great questions!
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  No atheist in A fox hole.

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  first of all iam a agnostic.

  i,am curious, you who are atheist.

  what or how do you deal with a life or death situation.

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  gymbob

  "You'll never find an atheist in a foxhole"...Is that kind of like, "You'll never find a dead Christian praying in a foxhole". (?)