my relatives that are still witnesses, always hate it when i say one thing to them, more then any others ... .
"are you going to church tonight?
"were you at church?".
These are all GREAT!! I like the blood issue........
"I'm alive because of a blood transfusion", GREAT!!
How about, "i'm alive because of a blood transfusion, i'd do it again if I had to....will you still study with me and can I still get baptized in your church?" There is just no way they can answer that!
GYMBB
first off, i want to make it clear, i am not accusing anyone of any misdeeds.
there are alot of topics on here like; "show your picture, what do you do for a living?, how did you pick your screen name?
these are probably innocent posts by nice people.
I understand why some wouldn't want to be identified. Personally, I don't care who recognizes me, and I enjoy my freedom. I guess i'm in the "piss on bethel group".
And for those here looking to i.d. apostates....shouldn't the purpose of your presence here tell you SOMETHING about the religion you belong to? Hello?
i auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
Xcal~
your typeing and spelings is better now.
i auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
It's not "on the front page of every newspaper" because IT ISN'T NEWS, everybody already knows it except JW's.
You SHOULD be concerned about your typing skills, maybe that's why you presently don't have work.
1. why the hell do you think i care?.
2. gross, get rid of it!
3. keep it.. 4. eh?
I'd say keep it, but....."We won't be able to use you in the congregation....."
One of the first things I did when I left was grow some facial hair. Keep it, it'll be a constant reminder you're not one of "them".
i auxilary pioneered for a year, then i regular pioneered for 2 years while serving as a ministerial servant.
then i served at bethel for 3 years.
while at bethel i worked harder then i have my hole life.
Xcal~
Welcome to the board! There are good people here who can give you some great advice, and I was at bethel also, and i'm pretty new here, so I know how you feel.
You asked for advice from people here, and THIS IS IT...ready?? Good.
1) START TAKING BETTER CARE OF YOURSELF. Get some sleep and see a doctor.
2) LEAVE THE WITNESSES. They are not what you think they are.
3) GET A JOB. Start taking care of yourself financially.
4) GET A EDUCATION.Find out what you want to do, then learn how to do it.
5) KEEP READING ON THIS WEBSITE. Start your education right here, there are lots of smart, caring people here to learn from.
In my experience, i've noticed that the people who get the most breaks in life, are the people who work the hardest. You're a hard worker, ok. But you have been working for the wrong cause. You have good motives, but anytime you do something with the witnesses (meetings, field service, etc.) is time better spent on YOUR LIFE. If you do this, you won't believe how much time you'll have to fix things in you're life and get back on track.
each year name badges are handed out at the kingdom halls for those attending the upcoming district convention.
i have always refused to wear one but this was not a major issue as i would say only about 50% wore them anyway.
however i noticed that as the years went by more and more 'brothers' were wearing them including during the lunch break in the city centre concerned.
I remember one of the last DC's I attended in Bakersfield, Ca., I worked in the Accounting Dept., we had these little colored badges under our regular badges that we were suppose to flip-up to show we had some "clearance" to other areas and to go pick-up the contribution boxes.
This one old sister (from my own congregation mind you) who was watching her big round contribution box, wouldn't let me take it after I flashed her my "badge-under-the-badge", oh my freakin' god....you wouldn't believe the scene she made! I wasn't going to make a deal out of it, so I go get my accounting dept. overseer, she doesn't care.....she won't give it up to anybody! It took 3-4 badge-flashing attendants about 20 minutes to FORCE it from her, and boy was she mad!
I can laugh about it now.....one of my few fun moments at a convention!
a quote from this site - http://www.2001translation.com/jerusalem's%20destruction%20587%20or%20607.htm says that 'most historians agree that 539-b.c.e.
is the date of the overthrow of babylon, for there is much evidence pointing to this.
so, it is called an absolute date.
Scholar~
I'm kinda' new here, but, geez.........get a life!
IP's right, why would a person have to go to such means to prove a point that is STILL in question?! In all your "studies", did it ever occur to you that most people on this side of the GALAXY shouldn't really have to (and DON'T) care?
do you find yourself scanning the posts of new ones here hoping in the back of your mind that it's a friend or relative who has finally "seen the light"?.
there are several people i am always watching for.... my best friend from high school, the only friend i was allowed to have since she was the only girl my age in the kh.
and my brothers... extremely bright and intelligent guys, but very wrapped up in gaining my fathers and the congregations approval.
Here's one for you.....
I have a very old JW friend who (several years back) told me he wasn't sure about some of the WT prophecies, and he's always on the internet. He still goes to meetings, but I think he may be waiting for his elderly parents to pass away before he leaves the dubs, that way, they don't cut him out of the will and have everything they own sent to Brooklyn.
DB are you out there?????
no, i'm not looking for a job, but i need to know how much they pay.
i want accurate info for my speech.
Yep, when I was there (back in the 70's) it was $14 a month. But back then I really don't think they expected anyone to NOT get help from home, your old congregation friends, you new congregation friends, etc. and most did, that's how we lived!
I had some "roomies" that made out pretty good, regularly coming in late after the meetings with food, clothing and cash from local bro's.
The whole $$ arrangement, still to this day sucks like a hoover.....
