That's what I was thinking but I guess my question is does anyone know an actual reason for this tract to come out now? I suppose I am asking if anyone has any inside information.
[Borgmode]There's a very good reason why this tract is coming out now! FALSE RELIGION'S END IS NEAR![/Borgmode]
i run into 6 sisters today .
i would guess poineering.
figured i'd stop and give them a try.
Johnny, I'm suprised they didn't run away from you. You're a champ. I'm gonna edit your stories and save 'em.
ok,i've been sick for 2 days (sore throat, feeling run-down) so i could use some good laughs.
something just made me think of how absurdly lame jw "get-togethers" always were.
there were several that we went to (when we were still being love-bombed as newbies) where we ate dinner, then played bible pictionary.
SirNose-Well put. That's just what it was like. There was no real conversation going on. It was all about how spiritually strong and happy you could pass yourself off to be. I can't imagine going to a gathering of non-JWs and someone pulling out the Bible Sharades game!!! Or starting a conversation like, "Wasn't the latest Watchtower great? I just never get tired of reading about how this Wicked System of Things is so very Wicked!" ... Puke!
Yes, and seeing as how an upcoming Borgtower study will be on how to have Elder-Approved Gatherings, I'm sure even the better gatherings might be forced to become even more of a farce. Everything has to be micromanaged...
sorry to be a major pain in the ass - but could those " in the know " clear something up for me?.
is the " generation " teaching that was redefined during 1995 still taught to " interested ones " or have the wtbts totally removed this generation idea from their new literature, which is used to indoctrinate a person leading up to baptism?.
any enlightenment welcome.
The generation teaching has been swept under the rug. No one talks about it. No one can really explain it. No articles or talks discuss it, so the Borg keeps it quiet, all the while creeching about how close the end is!
were you on automatic pilot?
did you consider yourself a "stepford" family member?
did you do everything you were told to do, automatically??
I was not mindless but following men in autority for a long time - because they surely knew better...
Same here. I figured, "There are some unanswered doubts I have about this religion, but I guess I shouldn't worry because there are these anointed brothers and sisters, and you can't fake that." Once I dismantled all the claims to authority the Borg had, I got my mind back, and now I question what I can without raising too much suspicion.
did you ever think of attending a meeting at another hall far away, where no one knows you, and where you could pass for a very spiritual jw...although you,re df'd... hehe.
something maybe you'd like to do just once, just to see how things are these days at the meetings.. and maybe at the end of the meeting after making 10 comments, tell everyone, you're disfellowshipped !!!!
hahaha.
Yeah, I wouldnt want to sit there especially through the sunday meeting for two hours. Besides that, where would I get the watchtower so I could study ahead of time to answer? I could answer a few, and at the last one, tell them over the mic that they have been had, im dfed, and walk out!
That would be awesome, if you had a cordless mic and you just stood up and dropped it, battle-MC style. Of course that would make the poor dubbies so paranoid. They'd shake newcomers' hands reluctantly, and want to know if they were Df'd right away.
yesterday my wife (an inactive-but-not-yet-df'd jw) and i went over to visit her parent's house (still very active jws), and my mother-in-law handed my wife a flyer entitled 'the end of false religion is near' with a nice evil-destroying lightning bolt pictured on the front.
she whispered to my wife that this was a new campaign and was not supposed to be handed out until next month, but was "very excited, because this is supposed to bring about the tribulation".. they may be right.
inside the two pages they call catholics condoning child molesting (ironic), non-jws blood thirsty war mongers, and how people involved in politics are under mind control (again, ironic), among other things.
You know what's really a hoot? Last Thursday on the service meeting, the PO gave the campaign talk and he revealed that some of the friends felt "scared" to deliver this message. Woooooooooow. Get over it dubbies, no one gives a hoot about your propaganda. I guess one wackjob fundie or radical Muslim attacking a dub will no doubt count as "Satan's persecution." But really, I don't even know if those two groups even care about us.
<!-- .style1 { font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; } .style2 {font-family: arial, sans-serif} .style3 {color: #ff0000} .style5 {font-size: 14px} --> your most hair-raising moments in field service throughout my tenure of being one of jehovah's.
witnesses, i am thankful that there were only.
two or three incidents which proved to be some.
Wow....you guys have had some CRAZY fs experiences! I never had anything mentioned previously happen to me: no sicced dogs, no guns pointed at me, never got chased. There was one time where I thought something bad was going to happen. We were working Section 8 housing (lower income). I and a Filipina sister knocked on a door and this enthusiastic Mediterranean-sounding gentleman answered.
"Hello! Who are you? What are you here for? Are you here to spread the word of Christ?" he fired off to us. We were taken aback by his ardent questioning and insistent, loud tone of voice.
"Yes...yes we are..." I managed.
"Come! Come, come, come, come in! Please!" he gestured, clapping me on the shoulder. I exchanged concerned glances with the sister. A debilitating wave of anxiety washed over me. I felt like a cattle knowing he was on his way to the slaughter. Getting away from the door seemed like a great idea, but I had never been shown this much interest, so I meekly agreed to go in. The sister looked concerned but said nothing. The man ushered us inside his apartment.
The apartment was poorly lit and somewhat untidy. At that moment I expected somebody to come around the corner with a shotgun and pump me and the sister full of buckshot. I imagined the headlines: "Two Gullible Jehovah's Witnesses Murdered." I knew we'd be dead, but at least we'd be martyrs. "Come, come! Look at this! This is my chapel," he informed us. He was referring to a picture on the wall of Jesus, non-WTS style. The bookcase underneath the picture was lined with unlit votive candles and decorative doilies.
"Now, who is this man?" he asked.
"It's Jesus," I said.
"And who is he? Who is Jesus?"
"Jesus is God's Son."
"Yes, and...?"
"Our Lord," said the sister.
"Yes, and...?"
"The Prince of Peace?" I offered.
"Yes, AND...?"
"He's the Messiah...?" By this answer I felt confused. I wasn't sure what answer was going to get him to stop, but I needed to come up with something different.
"Yes. And?"
"He's our Savior."
"Yes! Our savior! And if you're not here to talk about him, then you may go."
So, long story short, we gave him a Jesus mag. (thank goodness we had some at the time) and a Require brochure. The sister encouraged me to go back on him, but I had never been that scared in quite some time. Besides, I admired his zeal and didn't want to see a man like that trudge to the meetings day after day. Mainly I didn't want to see him again...
after lady liberty gave a link to the new re-examine site, i found some details that are so disturbing its boggling my mind.. first, the original presidents were voted in, but not one vote per person but for every $10.00 contributed you received a vote.
so those already in power and with much money had tremendous sway as to who got in and who didn't.
this little scheme was not stopped until 1944.. so when rutherford was "elected by a unanimous vote" we can assume it was mainly of his own doing based on money contributed.
So it really wasn't a democratic method of decision-making; it was plutocracy.
Amazing.
www.reexamine.org (wt publications online).
"this, then, is how you should pray: " 'our father in heaven, hallowed be your name, .
nwt.
Can you believe this experience!!! Without mentioning she was looking for a job. I know that this JW left out part of the story…is it possible to go to this non-JW girl and confirm the story? Did the JWs in that sister’s congregation confirm it? I was told that no experiences appeared in the WT that had not been confirmed. How would you confirm this subjective experience?
Last night I made the mistake of questioning this experience during the fam. study. It drew a lot of ire from the fam, especially from my mom, who asked me if I thought it was impossible to impregnate a woman by Holy Spirit! I was really amazed at how a bit of skepticism equates to me abandoning faith in the Holy Spirit! (And how quickly she turned on me...that was disturbing. So Mary becoming pregnant with Jesus = Lady in the Phillipines getting a job out of the blue. They are both set in stone.) I was really taken aback by this...but persisted in noting at how extreme this example was: you pray for pioneering and a job, then bam! You get your prayer answered, that VERY DAY in fact. I asked, if she prayed for a job alone, would they have included this in the Watchtower? I also asked, if four people in a car prayed not to die on their journey, and three of four die in an accident, is the fourth person somehow better than the others, or was it pure chance that the person survived. She laughingly said that yes, the person who survives was the better person.
I really wanted to ask, if a dirt poor mother in Africa prays for her sickly child to survive the night, and he doesn't, but yet someone in the US prays for the circumstances to go pioneering and gets them, who was more worth it in God's eyes? Of course, if I had asked this, I think she would've called up the PO and arranged a JC...
I was suprised with the fantastic nature of this experience and expressed skepticism out loud. Don't forget, masked apostates, you can question a scripture but don't you DARE question a Watchtower!!
