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  Where did 607 come from?

  by MrFreeze in

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  okay so we've obviously established on this board that 607 is not the correct date that babylon destroyed jerusalem.

  even before 1914 came around, the bible students still thought 1914 would be a pivital date.

  the only way they can gain that info is from the 7 times or w/e.

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  Perhaps this has been asked elsewhere (as a matter of fact I believe it has), but it is worth asking again - Outside the Jehovah's Witnesses (or their apologists), are there any historians, archealogists, religious leaders or ANYONE who says: 1) 607 is the correct date and/or 2) The actual date is something other than the commonly accepted date of 587 (+/- a few years)?

  I love great conspiracy theories and would LOVE for centuries of claims re: 587 be shown, to a high degree of certainty with sufficient evidence, to be incorrect. Just imagine how it must have felt when people first started realizing that the Earth was not the center of the universe, or that it wasnt flat.

  However, no one seems to have been able to step up and show 587 (+/- a few years) to be incorrect. I am open to REAL evidence and clearly produced reasoning on the matter. It'd be great to see all the history books and encyclopedias have to be re-written just for the sake of advancing knowledge, yet this seems unlikely to happen in the light of the mountains of evidence suggesting that historians have it correct. It appears as though EVEN THE BIBLE supports the historians claims (if I read things correctly).
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  Horus = Jesus ? I saw a tv show relating the similarities. What do you know?

  by blondie in

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  watching religulous.

  http://www.paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com/comparsison_horus_jesus_chart.htm (more charts on site).

  comparison of the lives of horus and jesus: coincidence?mstheme.

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  Hoping4Change

  There was an old guy who had a series of books on Myths in History and did specials on public TV that also mentioned this years ago.

  @Jwoods -

  Are you thinking of Joseph Campbell?
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  JW replies on my Shunning article

  by besty in

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  i have a google article on shunning -.

  http://knol.google.com/k/why-jehovah-s-witnesses-practice-religious-shunning#.

  its had almost 15,000 page views :-).

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  Link in first post does not seem to be working - thankfully Google had a cached copy

  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://knol.google.com/k/why-jehovah-s-witnesses-practice-religious-shunning#
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  A sneak peek of the future, June 23, 2010

  by EndofMysteries in

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  you will not see this on the news, or very slight mention of it.

  youtube, and other places will show you.

  look out for the g 2 0 and g 8 summ it meetings in tooronto canada.

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  Is this part of the 'plan'?

  Toronto man charged in G20 bomb plot

  http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h7qkWuwHFnkyepLX5-ls70iSTcEw
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  Ted Jaracz - the Cardinal Ratzinger of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Dogpatch in

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  theodore ("ted") jaracz1925-2010.

  about 7:30, june 9, 2010, theodore ("ted") jaracz, one of the members of the governing body ruling over jehovah's witnesses, died.

  previously, on may 19, 2009, he had had a serious stroke, but recently seemed to have made a big recovery, giving some assembly talks.

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  I wish I had my copy of the court documents on hand, but perhaps it is time to start posting the relevant portions of those documents here (posting images of the documents, not transcribing them). Perhaps it is around those that a discussion could be had and AIW could chime in why or why not such documents indicate foul play on the part of the WTBTS.
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  Are you an active Jw or an ex-jw?

  by XPeterX in

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  active unbaptised publisher here.you?

  (though i already know the answer for some people).

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  Do you want a cafeteria approach to the Bible Issac?

  This is an interesting remark given that the "compilation of writings" known as "The Bible" can also be viewed as a cafeteria approach to the religious writings existing during the initial growth of Christianity. Certainly those who decided which writings would be included in "official" canon took it upon themselves to decide which ones would be considered the word of God and which ones would not. Regardless of one's 'faith', simple historical facts remain - there existed a body of religious writings from which a "group of men" chose and declared are the word of God. If "men" can do this, why cant "men" (and "women") take it upon themselves to explore, research,question and decide which parts within "officigal canon" may or may not be truly from God?
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  Watchtower Comments is producing a tribute video for Raymond Franz

  by besty in

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  watchtower comments is producing a tribute video for raymond franz.

  we want you to be a part of this.please record a brief audio statement expressing how raymond franz helped you, either personally or by reading his books crisis of conscience and in search of christian freedom.

  contributors will be kept anonymous unless you state otherwise.email the audio file to [email protected].

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  Hoping4Change

  (edited to remove duplicate link posting

  @ besty - call :-) )

  Here's the thread re: the need for an updated article

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/194052/1/We-need-a-national-story-about-Ray-Franzs-life
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  We need a national story about Ray Franz's life

  by moshe in

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  like everyone else here, i am praying for ray to pull through this medical crisis, but i realize the odds are not good.

  i know it's not something people want to think about, their obituary, but i contacted a religion journalist and told her about ray franz, his life at bethel and his books.

  i hope she passes the information on to the rest of the writers on their religion blog.

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  re: the Time magazine article

  It would be nice to see Time pick this story up and update some of its' contents re: Jehovah's Witnesses. Notice how the end of the article points out "They have necessarily backed off the 1975 date, but the End must occur during the lifetime of people who still remember the earthly events of 1914. With the rapidly thinning ranks of such oldsters, the Witnesses confront an increasingly troublesome, self-imposed and absolute deadline." It would be nice if any such article would also point out the change/shift to this with the new Generation teaching.
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  Documentary Film: 'Waiting for Armageddon'

  by leavingwt in

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  http://www.waitingforarmageddon.com/.

  "[the film] serves as an absorbing snapshot of america's highly influential, reportedly 50-million-strong evangelical christian movement.

  " (source).

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  Is there any mention of Jehovah's Witnesses in this film?
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  DO you follow any of these quacks, charlatans, liars, mystics or self-promoters?

  by Terry in

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  don't try to lie about it.

  you accept some of these people as an authority.

  you listen to them.

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  I'm a little confused about the inclusion of the Dali Lama, though that could be due to my own ignorance. Isnt one of the very first things one learns when studying Buddhism is to NOT blindly follow anything or anyone, including the Buddha (therefore by extension, the Dali Lama)?