Posts by VanillaMocha73

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Get A Load Of This Anti Watchtower Site!

by minimus in

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friends

a preview of what's coming in january is on this link, it sounds scary to me!!!!

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http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/.

VanillaMocha73

Seems to need login credentials? How do I obtain these?

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I have an IDEA....an "Apostate smokeout"

by megsmomma in

jw
friends

ok....maybe this is stupid, but i was thinking of all of us setting up a day to go to the meeting and all that are here and hiding, or just lurk here could participate and we could set up an underground support system.

it would just entail a simple gesture at the meeting....like holding a tissue, or some toilet paper.

(like you had a runny nose) if there are elder lurkers and they tried to "catch" someone doing this...what could they say.."why are you holding a tissue????????

VanillaMocha73

Don't think I could actually sit through another meeting....

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PROOF THIS JW Religion COULD BE THE TRUE RELIGION

by Dark_Princess in

well in the bible it says said by jesus christ himself... that "the true religion will be the relgion everyone despises and hates.".

is this not the relgion of jehovahs witnesses?..

look in the bible itself it says in john 15:18-19. jesus says, "if the world hates you, you know it has hated me before it has hated you.

VanillaMocha73

The first proof offered by the JWs is that they are not taught to hate people from other countries. John 15:13 says that the greatest love a person could have for another is to surrend his soul on behalf of his friend. They claim that they have shown love by exposing such things as the atrocities of Hitler (8/22/95 Awake). However, if one reads the actual declaration made by the Witnesses sent to Hitler (1934 Yearbook) they state "the greatest and most oppresive empire on earth is the Anglo-American empire." So, there went the neutrality topic.

The next is that they proclaim God's name. Many other religions use God's name. Check out a song that I have heard in several churches. Then, that they do not celebrate pagan holidays. Again, they don't have a monopoly on this one either. OK, they must preach about God's kingdom. Well, lots of religions preach in various ways about God's Kingdom, so no monopoly there.

There is one test of whether a PERSON (not a group) is in a true religion - 2 Corinthians 13:5 - it has to be done individually but knowing that we have accepted Jesus - and only YOU can know that for YOURSELF.

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JW Wedding - Saturday

by Zico in

i'm going to a jw wedding on saturday.

the groom is 20, and the bride is 22. .

a bit young this, don't you think?

VanillaMocha73

Typical of JW Weddings - they have no clue on how to live independently. I think they get married because they are horny with no clue about anything else in life. You know, like paying rent... Kids with no education, told to live on part time jobs and pioneer.... Barely any of them last, and if they do, they seem to be miserable....

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What can 25,000 members on this board do?

by The wanderer in

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friends

what can 25,000 members on this board do?have you ever wanted to do something really great and re-.

ceive recognition for it?

one thing that many of us on this board have in common is .

VanillaMocha73

Web site design, technical troubleshooter, researcher. I would be totally happy to get involved in helping people out of the WT.

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..Screw It!!..

by OUTLAW in

the one thing i love about my life is not doing any mantitory wbt$ bullsh*t..it`s not voluntary..none of it..just try to stop..you will be attacked on all sides..you have a gun to your head..your trying to keep your family and life together and the wbt$ will tear it apart..many are still there because of that.it`s not easy on them.....some of us say screw it!.do your worst it!..once i decieded i was out,i was out.it was done in a heart beat..everyone i knew,made my life as difficult as possible.i made a new life and they are all still stuck there.waiting for armageddon and can`t remember what they preached in years gone by..you`ve heard of alzhiemers.jehovah`s witness`s get jozhiemers.it must be contagious,they all have it.....from the time you wanted to leave,till the time you left,how long did it take you to say screw it!

?...outlaw

VanillaMocha73

One year of attending the church of shame. Then, one month of attending the church of love AND the church of shame before choosing the God of Love.

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My story (very long)

by reneeisorym in

we all went to the same kingdom hall.

another thing that bothered me was the lack of love.

i was bothered that the arguments and logic of the society commonly made little sense.

VanillaMocha73

It would be a donation. I found out what they were doing with Katrina and that was just plain WRONG!

Anybody see the Awake article that was soundly condemning some Christian church for selling loaves of bread that were donated? Well, I don't see the difference here. We all donated our money and time and vacation to help and the Society took all the insurance monies on top of all the donations. They truly did make a Killing - in more ways than one.

Congrats on finding Christ. Isn't it wonderful?

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Was there ever.......?

by lavendar in

dear ex-witnesses: was there ever a time, when you were out in service, that someone at the door said something that got you thinking about the wts?........anything that created some doubt about the org.

in the your mind?

if so, do you remember what it was?.

VanillaMocha73

An elder brought me along on a return visit to this lady and her husband, as his wife was not out in service. They brought out Kingdom of the Cults and started trying to talk with the elder. He was so rude to them, in their own home, that I wanted to fall through the couch. I spent the entire visit trying to make up for his lack of manners and rudeness. In the end, they gave me a tract invitation to their church, which I tucked into my Bible and thought no more about for 2 years.

After I was df'd and then told that I could not be accepted back, after trying for a year, because my former husband was still in good standing, so it would look inappropriate to reinstate me, this tract fell out of my Bible. What a coincidence!!! I went to their church one morning, mostly because I wanted to apologize to the lady for the rude behaviour. It was so wonderful that I kept going to their church before the KH on Sunday mornings and eventually caught myself saying "I've been to the church of love, now I have to go to the church of condemnation."

I have now become a Christian and am happily married to a minister. God has blessed me greatly!

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What proof is there that the JWs were chosen by Jehovah to be His people?

by VM44 in

what proof is there that the jws were chosen by jehovah to be a "people for his name"?

growth in numbers is not proof, other religions also have displayed such growth over the last 100 years.. material prosperity is not proof as other religions also have considerable wealth, both in cash, property and real estate.. printing the watchtower and awake!

magazines certainly is not proof!.

VanillaMocha73

Why - here is the proof How Can You Find the True Religion?

3. The most outstanding mark of true Christians is that they have real love among themselves. (John 13:34, 35) They are not taught to think that they are better than people of other races or skin color. Neither are they taught to hate people from other countries (only people from other religions or who might be considered weak, or different) (Acts 10:34, 35) So they do not share in wars. True Christians treat one another as brothers and sisters.—1 John 4:20, 21.

4. Another mark of true religion is that its members have a deep respect for the Bible. They accept it as the Word of God and believe what it says. (As long as it is the Bible they wrote)(John 17:17; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17) They treat God's Word as being more important than human ideas or customs. (Matthew 15:1-3, 7-9) They try to live by the Bible in their everyday life. So they do not preach one thing and then practice another.—Titus 1:15, 16.

5. The true religion must also honor God's name. (Matthew 6:9) Jesus made God's name, Jehovah, known to others. True Christians must do the same. (John 17:6, 26; Romans 10:13, 14) Who are the people in your community that tell others about God's name? Or at least the name they use for God

6. True Christians must preach about God's Kingdom. Jesus did so. He always talked about the Kingdom. (Luke 8:1) He commanded his disciples to preach this same message in all the earth. (Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20) True Christians believe that only God's Kingdom will bring true peace and security to this earth.—Psalm 146:3-5. Strange, I hear this from my Babylon the Great churches too

7. Jesus' disciples must be no part of this wicked world. (John 17:16) They do not get involved in the world's political affairs and social controversies. Well, unless it is about buying a party card in Mexico or belonging to the UN, or writing a letter in support of Hitler.. They avoid the harmful conduct, practices, and attitudes that are common in the world. (James 1:27; 4:4) Can you identify a religious group in your community that has these marks of true Christianity?

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Question about JC's...

by Justice-One in

there are three cult leaders (opps, i mean elders) on the jc, right?

does it take a majority or all three to agree to df you?.

can anyone give the outline on the standard jc?

VanillaMocha73

It takes them all of about 5 minutes to proclaim you 'eternally dead.' Nice, huh?