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  Did you have many bro's & sisters try to sell you stuff at the KH?

  by karter in

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  we had the usual amway,natural cures ect one sister sold life insurance and would not take no for an answer.

  as far as amway goes one bro drove everyone mad had to just about threaten him before he went away.

  one family seemed to be into every get rich quick (millions by monday) scheme they gave a talk about it at the service metting however they were not put off that easyley.

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  Yeah - ex-CO would try to sell everyone this stuff - down to where you could not actually talk to him comfortably:
  http://www.kleenco.com/
  Then there was Xango, Mangosteen. Pioneer brother was on the phone all day during service selling this stuff and counting his time. Think he was more on the cell phone than actually at a door.
  I can't think of a KH where they weren't selling something or other. Candle parties, Pampered Chef, you name it.
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  OT: Does anyone know this woman?

  by VanillaMocha73 in

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  http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/361443_coldcase02.html?source=mypi.

  her body was found in 1977, her killed arrested, served his time and is back in society.... but nobody knows who she is..... she was someone's missing daughter / sister.... .

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  http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/361443_coldcase02.html?source=mypi

  Her body was found in 1977, her killed arrested, served his time and is back in society.... But nobody knows who she is..... She was someone's missing daughter / sister....
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  Bethel Photo Album

  by jefferywhat in

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  i want to put together a little video for youtube of all the big bethels/assembly halls from around the world.

  could 1 person from each country post a googleearth shot of the bethel and assembly halls in their country ( three for the us, wallkill, ny, paterson) .

  i think it would be interesting to put together a video album of all the real estate globally!

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  http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=11515+62nd+Ave+E,+98373&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=56.900431,107.226562&ie=UTF8&ll=47.150589,-122.346754&spn=0.012083,0.026178&t=h&z=15
  Puyallup Assembly Hall - 11515 62nd Ave E, 98373, USA
  Zoom in and its the huge building on the right with all the cars. They own a bunch of surrounding property as well.
  Pics - http://travel.webshots.com/album/96832062vDLgJJ
  http://family.webshots.com/photo/1175576263052523833VIMMTu
  http://family.webshots.com/photo/1175577445052523833jfkCxn
  http://family.webshots.com/photo/1175578172052523833GcvJFp
  http://family.webshots.com/album/116253215rFRGTr
  http://jehovah-shammah.wikidot.com/puyallup - a good Google Earth pic, but the text is not in English
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  Stories Of Wife Abuse In The Organization!

  by new boy in

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  there are so many.... i remember my exfather inlaw...ben regan, he was made an elder in newport r.i and that's enough to make you doubt the whole holy spirit thing right there.. i was sitting in his living room one sunday and the phone rings...some poor black sister just got the crap beat out of her and she was crying to him on the phone, she was looking for help.. ben said.

  "well you must have done something really bad to make him so mad at you...i know but...what you need to do is just have another beer and forget the whole thing"....good by.. thank god must women are not putting up with this anymore, from their husbands or religions that really don't care about them.

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  Yes, it is alive and well. I was abused from the first week. Went to the elders and they sent a MS over to ask him if he beat me. He said no, the MS left, and..... It doesn't take much imagination to guess what happened next. I went through 12 years of being told that I shouldn't make him mad, I didn't respect him enough not to complain, to be a good submissive wife and then he wouldn't get mad at me. They watched me go from a respectable slender weight to under 80 pounds - I looked like one of the Ethiopian stick people. The DO, Don Amy, came and sat on my couch and did the same thing as the MS and then had the face to wonder why I didn't show at the next meeting (too bruised and couldn't climb the stairs). My reward for finally leaving? DF'd and slandered. And they still stand behind him, even after professional assessments have revealed what he really is. I was not the only sister in the KH who was beaten either. His older son is a mess. I still struggle with PTSD.
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  Do you feel reading through the bible in the past has benefited you at all?

  by Hope4Others in

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  putting the doctrine aside do you feel it has given you any advantages?

  case in point my son posts on university sites and often the topic about the bible.

  and god come up.

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  Yes, as soon as I stopped reading the JW Bible and picked up the REAL one....
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  My Memorial Experience

  by oneairhead in

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  first of all i noticed that this just seemed like another meeting.

  when we drove in we had people parking us in strange ways, not to mention that the amount of cars there was just as many as a highly attended sunday meeting and we do fine then when we have no one to park us.

  they had more seats set out and there were no new ones just people who had not come in awhile.

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  We went - first JW meeting for husband. (He went to a funeral recently as well at a KH).

  It was so sad..... The rejection of Jesus, the lack of joy - the talk was dead, the singing was dead and did anyone notice that the last song (105) contradicted itself?

  We had to stand. The brothers that knew me tried to pretend they didn't. The brothers who didn't know me were all friendly and tried to offer my husband (pastor) a Bible Study. People that knew me - some were sensible and said hi and were fine - others were rude. The bimbo sister went after my new husband immediately.

  Has anyone noticed the high percentage of teen pregnancys in the org? and the wife swapping? I do not see this at the Christian church I attend, and I do see joyful worship. What a contrast next day's Easter Service was......

  Wow - a great reminder of why I ain't never goin' back....
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  How Many Here Are Born Again Christians Now?

  by lovelylil in

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  just wondering how many ex -jw's have become born again christians and whether or not this happened while you were still in the wt organization?

  also, what is your experience now with god and christ?

  ** please non-believers, lets not use this thread to bash christianity again, or do the whole is there god/not god discussion all over again.

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  Count me in. I accepted Christ right about the same time or just after I gave up on the JWs.
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  Did Prayer work for you, or not?

  by gaiagirl in

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  jws, and christians in genreral, are taught that god answers prayers of sincere believers.

  on the other hand, there is a popular bumpersticker which reads "nothing fails like prayer".. what has been your experience in this regard?

  did god answer your most heartfelt prayers, or were they ignored?.

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  ""God helps those who help themselves" {famous christian saying}" - however, nothing Christian whatsoever about this saying. In fact it is not even in the Bible. What IS in the Bible - Galatians 3:3 - "Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?"

  As a JW, I don't remember prayer being an integral part of worship or life. In fact, we were taught that God does not listen to most prayers - long list of what He listens to, who He does not listen to.... As a Christian, prayer has become integral and God answers those prayers. In fact, another thing JWs missed was that God speaks to us. Yes, He talks back!!!! We just have to listen. When, as a JW, did you spend time LISTENING to God?

  Or do you remember that you should not pray out loud because the Devil would hear you, but God can read your mind?
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  What's The Worst Thing An Elder or Elders Did To You?

  by minimus in

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  was there anything truly terrible??

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  Learn of spousal abuse, sit on the family's couch, ask the husband if he beat his wife, hear a no, nod sagely, and leave.... and not wonder what happened to her after he left.....
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  My friend wants to know how to stop the JW's from knocking at her door

  by Velvetann in

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  i wonder if anyone here can help my friend.

  i have no idea how to stop the witnesses from knocking at her door.

  she has ms and its difficult for her to stand at the door.

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  VanillaMocha73

  Sign: The dogs living here are fed by Jehovah's Witnesses... And they are hungry....