I'm glad she has a true friend like you!
becca1
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My JW roommate and the false religion tract
by oppgirl63 inmy roommate who is disabled was in the hospital for a couple of days last week (nothing too serious).
one of the 'sisters' from the hall brought her a few of the tracts to hand out while she was in the hospital (like to nurses and whoever).
she hasn't been to the meetings for a while because she hasn't been feeling well so this was the first time she had seen them.
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Do you truly WANT the Watchtower to collapse? If so why?
by nicolaou inthere are the abuses of course, the diabloical 'two witness' rule applied to allegations of molestation, the reckless 'blood ban' in all it's tortuous complexities (which by watchtowers own admission has resulted in many fatalaties) and the cruel punishment of shunning which has caused so much suffering and pain to many of us here.. is it for these reasons that you want to see the watchtower fall or is it simply that you want to see them humiliated and broken for what they've done to you?
most of us aren't bitter or selfish enough to want personal revenge against the watchtower but i'd be lying if i said i didn't sometimes think like that.. the reason for my original question is that i sometimes feel a bit hypocritical.
i try to accord respect to jw's and individuals of all faiths, (yes, even when i go off on one of my atheistic diatriabes) but whereas i allow myself to be hostile to the watchtower i shrink from being so forthright against other 'christian' faiths whose corrosive nature may not be so easily apparent but is there nonetheless.. i guess my question is; why do we want the watchtower to fall but do not wish all religion to fall?.
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becca1
To colapse by means of publicly and totally being exposed as false so that no one is in doubt would be a good thing. It's the only way most will ever be free. Will it happen? No.
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The Tribal Nature of Jehovah's Witnesses
by unclebruce init seems to me a common misconception amongst ex- jehovahs witnesses is that there will one day be an issue arises so big that it will pull the rug from under the watchtower bible and tract society bringing the whole edifice crumbling down.
revelations come and go, apostates jump from one hope to another.
expose after expose fail to cause more than a ripple on the tranquil jw pond.
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becca1
I'm afraid you're right.
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Ask a Question you didn't dare ask an elder because of fear of being DF'd?
by JH inonce a person is baptized, you can't ask the questions you may have asked prior to your baptism.. but probably after your baptism, there were things you'd have like to tell or ask the elders, but this could have meant that you had doubts.. what would you have said to an elder or asked him if it wasn't for the fear of getting reproved or df'd?.
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becca1
I would ask: Since we can accept blood fractions and still be "abstaining from blood", are single persons now able to engage in oral copulation and still be "abstaining" form sex?
Can we hang a Christmas wreath but not have a tree, and not be celebrating Christmas?
Where does it end, how did Jehovah communicate to them that a little tinsy tiny fraction of blood was not blood?
Where is the scriptural proof?
And bottom line: if we can have fractions, why not the whole kit and caboodle? What difference does it make? How do you not see this is silly?
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There is no such thing as Agnosticism. Agnostics do not exist!
by nicolaou inmany here seem to believe that the position of agnosticism is somehow more reasonable than theism or atheism.
nonsense!
it is a misconception to believe that belief or non-belief in the existence of god/s are the two extremes which glare at each other over the fence of agnosticism.
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becca1
You guys make my brain hurt! Get a life!
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There is no such thing as Agnosticism. Agnostics do not exist!
by nicolaou inmany here seem to believe that the position of agnosticism is somehow more reasonable than theism or atheism.
nonsense!
it is a misconception to believe that belief or non-belief in the existence of god/s are the two extremes which glare at each other over the fence of agnosticism.
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becca1
I always understood that an atheist does not believe in God-period-. An agnostic is not sure, maybe hopes there is a god, and leaves him/herslf open to the possibility.
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grandparents day in latest Awake!
by becca1 inin the new awake!
there is a short experience of a young sister who said: "we don't celebrate granparents day".
what is the basis for this conclusion?
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becca1
In the new Awake! there is a short experience of a young sister who said: "we don't celebrate granparents day". What is the basis for this conclusion? What is the pagan background for this day? Since it's in print, though quoting an individual, is it now JW dogma? Where will the stripping of all things normal end?
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need help
by jem12 ini was raised in the truth but was not baptized.my wife is and enjoys going out in service but i have found out from her twin sister that while i was away in alberta working she was cheating with a brother from her hall.after coming back and finding out about this and her telling me her sister is lying i found photos of them at dinners bowling and so forth, also i found nude photos of her and after me talking with her and her lying about them that her sister took the photos the truth finally came out it was a man she met from her work that took them,this is a christen women who fears jehovah why would a person with such strong love for her religon do this.after me finding these things out she kicked me out of our house.... please help me find an answer.. because deep down i still love her..
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becca1
Ditto on that last one. If you love her and trully see a future with her, don't give up w/o a fight. But if you don't, take your walking papers and run.But whatever you do don't pretend to want her back just to make her miserable and get back at her. I am sure you are aware that form the WT point of view you are the injured party and the ball is in your court. If you say you forgive her and want her back she will not be free in the Wt's eyes. Either she gets back together with you and shows repentance (even if she does't want to) or she gets disfellowshipped. If you say it's over between you, there is a chance she won't get disfellowshipped if she palys her card right. So, think before you act. What she's done to you is terrible but don't add insult to injury if you really don't want her back. This may be a wonderful opportunity for you in the long run.
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Just read today about a sect in England called "Lord's Witnesses".....
by rocky220 insounds familiar...?.
link does not work, go to googles, enter lord's witnesses and find the website with the name speroforum.com hope that works, this sect sounds crazier than .
the borg.......rocky220.
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becca1
Is he related to Madonna's hubby, Guy Ritchie?
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WHERE ARE YOU?
by Jez inso, my 16 year old is really giving me a hard time lately.
really horrible stuff.
i won't get into it but my reason for posting this topic, is that i keep thinking how difficult this is to not be able to be mothered when i need it.. i would never have imagined how hard this is.
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becca1
Could you call her and say how much you need her right now, just to "test the waters"? Maybe she'll soften...