Does that mean that Satan did all that bad stuff and they didn't even shun him? Hmm hardly fair on the rest of us!
Posts by dobbie
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16talk about an AWKWARD heavenly arrangement for satan...and Jesus...
by oompa inever notice how incredibly patient god is?....esp re: satan?
wt never wants to discuss this i think.
they love their "universal issue" of gods sovereignty, and how it must take thousands of years to prove his point that he has the right to rule (just barf stupid!
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How Tall are You ? Weight Optional - Only if you are Comfortable ?
by flipper in.
my wife and i were talking about this and thought it would be fun.
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dobbie
When i was a baby i was 5lbs and they told my dad i wouldn't live more than a day!But we shorties are toughies! I'm 5ft1 and currently (owing to having my baby last yr) 11st! But before i got pregnant i was 8st7lbs so am hoping to get near to that - just may take me a while lol!
My little ones were 2lbs1oz(13 wks prem), 6lbs3(2 wks early) and 6lbs7oz(3 wks early) when they were born, we seem to breed small babies in our family lol
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Family is shunning us.
by AgentSmith inmrs smith and i have faded away for many years.
we knew the day will come that we would be questioned directly what our stand is.. this past holidays we were confronted by our jw family.
we told them the truth, we are not jw's anymore and that we go to any church that strikes our fancy.
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dobbie
What you both did was really brave, it takes guts to come out and tell them so well done.
I have little ones too, one of them does remember the hall, the other doesn't, they are the reason we got out. Although it was my hubbys family shunning me, i too found it extremely hurtful and went through so many different emotions hurt, upset, feeling stupid, blazing anger at them and at myself, you will probably go through it too - it is totally normal.
I am now so much happier, two yrs on, i still have been left with anger i admit, but life is great, we have a normal happy family life and am v proud of my family. Hubbys own mother who lives in the same small town has never seen her 11 month old grandson and my 4 yr old doesn't remember her, we put their attitude down to mental illness as thats how we see the religion nowadays. Please stay strong, its a rollercoaster ride of emotions but such a relief to be out of it all, and it really does get better.x
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Any Vegans on the Board?
by PrimateDave inmy new year's resolution is to make the lifestyle change to the vegan-pure vegetarian diet: no animal derived foods.. it is a change i have considered before on different occasions.
i didn't stick with the diet in the past due to lack of information, or perhaps the abundance of misinformation available on the optimum diet.
i've never been grossly overweight, probably never over 170 lbs.
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dobbie
i've been a vegetarian for about 24 yrs, since i was 12. I did try to become a vegan at 15, but with a father who was firstly a butcher and then a milkman, plus my love of chocolate lol it didn't work. I ended up v anaemic and mum and i had to see a dietician as we didn't have a clue on what i should be eating! Mind you i was lovely and slim cos i hardly ate anything! I know its alot tougher being vegan though you can have soya milk and even chocolate. You would need to eat lots of pulses some nuts etc.
I still cook meat for hubby and the kids tho they actually prefer the veggie food, but although raw meat turns my stomach over wouldn't be fair to make them veggie, that's up to them to decide when they are older, it doesn't bother me either way.
You could always try veganism for a couple of months say and see how you are feeling, then if you find its not right for you, too hard etc go back to your normal diet. My favorite recipe is lentil bolognese if you'd like the recipe let me know.
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dobbie
My favorite is cheddar cheese with lettuce and toms in fresh wholemeal bread, and then cheese and cress, cucumber, jam sarnies and also marmalade ones (just like Paddington Bear lol)
I also have some lunchtimes a mushroom and onion sarnie or potato waffles and ketchup, vegeburger in a roll or a good ole chip butty!
My mum eats banana sandwiches now thats just gross!
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dobbie
personally i prefer none, cos they are usually dead within the week (hubby likes to get the reduced ones!) and i would rather spend the money on something else, the other week i had been a bit down and i had a bunch three days in a row. But miserable cow that i must be i would have preferred the money and bought a new top or something that would last lol!
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Why men die first
by The Lone Ranger inwhy do men die first?
this is a question that has gone unanswered for centuries, but, now we know.
it requires a bit of explanation!!.
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dobbie
Your'e one brave man lol!
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Being Shunned
by sadfox ini knew this day was coming but i thought somehow there might be a loophole.. i had my "last supper" with my daughter on monday.
i am disfellowshipped, her father and i are divorced, he is a witness, she lives with him and will be 18 on sunday the 5th.
therefore as a baptized witness, she can no longer visit me and must keep communication to the bare minimum.
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dobbie
So sorry you are going through this hun, i've got out while my kids are little i can't begin to imagine your pain. I'd reiterate what others said though and just make sure she knows that whatever she decides you will always be there for her no matter what. Hugs x
Lovely post Damocles have taken note of all that you put.
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Completely taken advantage of!
by Gill innot to make light of a very important illness, but i have, i believe 'grandmother's postnatal depression'!!.
i feel totally taken advantage of and a laughing stock and a 'nothing'.
infact i feel totally unappreciated.. i am looking after my sweet little grandaughter for around 60 hours a week!
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dobbie
If she is working full time and getting credits is she not entitled to help towards nursery costs or are they earning too much? I really feel for you, i have a 7 month old baby and i know what hard work they are, it must be especially annoying when it is not your own! Last year when our finances were a bit sticky my mum offered to look after my tolddler so i could go back to work but i couldn't do that to her i know how tiring it is!
Is there any tactful way you could say to them that you love your granddaughter dearly but are finding it a bit hard and maybe you could cut the hours down a bit?What about her mum would she be in a position to share the care with you? I know nurseries are mega expensive i pay £20 just for a morning session at his nursery, if you make that 2 sessions a day all month its ridiculous and as you are saving them an armful of nursery costs i think you are right to be upset they haven't even offered any money.
Basically although it is your granddaughter you are doing an unpaid job at a time when you need a paid one! Perhaps the hint that you may have to start looking for another job soon as things are getting tight might sink in?xx
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Hubby's been sent an invite to see the elders at the hall - my fault!
by dobbie ini posted the other day about being called on when i'm d'ad and that the elder refused to leave when i asked as i am not the head of the house!
so i wrote a letter saying what had happened and not to call again or i'd seek further action, i also got hubby (as head of the house lol) to sign it and sent a copy to the main branch as well.. we got a very polite reply this week saying that of course they'd 'respect' my wishes but wish to ascertain if hubby still wants to be a jw and have sent him an 'invitation' to join them one night next week!otherwise he can send in a d'a letter if he wishes!.
so far he's done nothing about it though i have talked him out of going, but if he doesn't send the letter or turn up will they automatically take that as him d'aing himself?just wondering if any ex elders here know as i think i ought to warn him in advance.
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dobbie
Docbob that letter is brilliant, have saved it to show hubby.
Yknot i'm not offended at all you only state all the things i know already. Though when i said 'got him' to sign the letter i meant asked him i did'nt use any pressure but its true he hates me getting upset by it all and his
He actually ignored his step father this morning who tried to speak, and it was me who got upset about it i just want them to have a normal family relationship-tho they never did- likei have with my non jw family, ifeel immense guilt for leaving it and knowing that if he leaves his family will blameit on me.He won't go and see his mother as she treats him as marked and won'tphone himor anything unless its an emergency.
He is non confrontational and he is i think just not going to turn up tho hes working now anyway that night.When my son was thought to be dying his mothersaid she would'nt visit as the half hr drive was too far, but she drives further for the assembly up the road from the hospital. When he was born v early and again it looked like he would'nt pull through she was at an assembly and stayed forthe whole 3 days, there was no thought of being there to help her son.Personally i think he should tell her all this but hes scared of her and a very nice person so hates upsetting others. This is why he wants nothing to do with it and for how i am treated but i am trying to see how to help him. He never was one for making decisions!
Thanks for your comments i will show the letter to hubby when he comes in.