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  Sheohl and haides in the New NWT

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so, in their new nwt they render sheohl and haides "grave".

  this is a change from what the teach book says as a pdf.

  these words really mean?

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  "Alot of their bluster from bygone years is catching up with them."

  Thanks BC. So true!
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  Sheohl and haides in the New NWT

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so, in their new nwt they render sheohl and haides "grave".

  this is a change from what the teach book says as a pdf.

  these words really mean?

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  So, in their New NWT they render Sheohl and haides "Grave". This is a change from what the Teach Book says as a pdf. (I believe they changed it online)

  IN ITS original languages, the Bible uses the Hebrew word
  sheohl and its Greek equivalent haides more than 70 times.
  Both words are related to death. Some Bible translations
  render them as “grave,” “hell,” or “pit.” However, in most
  languages there are no words that convey the precise sense
  of these Hebrew and Greek words. The New World Translation
  therefore uses the words “Sheol” and “Hades.”What do
  these words really mean? Let us note how they are used in
  different Bible passages.

  So, they are saying that some [bad] Bible translations use "grave" instead of Sheohl and haides, and you can see by their tone that they say this is bad. Moreover, they say their old NWT way of rendering it as Sheohl and haides is the best way. Guess how their new NWT renders Sheohl and haides?

  Ecclesiastes 9:10: "Grave"

  Now, they just joined how "some" Bible translation render this text. Btw, the KJV, the one that they trashed so much in their AGM, said "grave" already.

  Idiots WT!
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  New 1975? Jan 1st WT 2014

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this post was taken from reddit exjw but makes a very good point:.

  these are two paragraphs of the watchtower of january 1st 2014.... .

  i don't know about you guys, but in my mind, i'm seeing a deja vu of the articles before 1975 i've read.

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  "We understand that in mentioning “this generation,” Jesus was referring to two groups of anointed Christians."

  Jus this line tells you this is not the true religion. When reading the Bible, they change this (1) to these (2).

  Discusting WT!
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  Are you gonna tell the elders that you posted here 8461 times? Lol.
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  "Jehovah's visible organization can use you, but can get along without you" Quote Watchtower

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can't you just feel the love of the org.. .

  *** watchtower 50 1/15 p. 26 par.

  22 who will share in the final witness?

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  Thanks for bringing this gem up WF.
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  Changing the Goalposts

  by braincleaned in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  creationists are not consistant with their otherwise apparant logic:.

  nothing comes from nothing check .

  everything has a beginning check .

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  Marked.
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  France Bethel Balance sheet

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on these links we can have a look at the french branch balance sheet, at least the ones that were submitted to the government.

  i don't speak french neither i'm an accountant so maybe someone here can made a bit of more of sense out of them.

  http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2012/3108/434966719_31082012.pdf.

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  --Off topic--

  Lol @ cantleave and londo111. When will the WT/FDS/GB will start using ads like these on the internet??

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  Isn't the new light exciting???

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, for some jw's the gb new light is very very exciting.

  in fact its the most exciting thing that has happened in a very long time.

  this is what a long time jw told me.

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  Well said WE. Jw's don't care one bit about doctrine. Just living in the Ne World..
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  DVD at elders meeting during circuit visit

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone had a circuit visit this week and seen the dvd for elders/mss?

  i'm guessing it's got an introduction from one of the gb and then demonstrations of how to behave in different situations.

  i'd like to be prepared before seeing it to ask suitable questions.. the (not so) pure one.

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  Another video???!!!!
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  1914 not Christ's Return anymore?

  by pacloc in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looking at the public dec 2013 watchtower under bible questions answered it looks like they are saying that the invisible return of christ is completely in the future.

  i thought that they always said it started in 1914?

  am i reading this wrong?.

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  Pacloc,

  The WT/FDS/GB says that Jesus's arrival was invisible in 1914. His "return", invisible only but the effects will be felt everywhere will be in the future.

  With that you get:

  Jesus came in the first century, left when he died, came again in 1914, left again around 1919, will come again during great tribulation, and will leave after great tribulation, but will be with the people that will inhabit the earth forever in paradise. It seems he loves to hang around on earth.

  Go figure WT's theology.