What I don't get is that reasonably intelligent people will not believe in evolution, dispite massive evidence for it, but believe in demons, despite zero evidence for it. I get it in a way, because I was a dub, I understand the Watchtower's manipulations, but most of the time I was in we didn't have the internet. Now that all JWs have access to the internet why are they still choosing to remain ignorant?
LisaRose
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I don't understand the psyche of JW
by bobld inthe majority have good jobs,drive newer vehicles,have nice homes,go on vacations.all in all they have the smarts.. however,rwhen it comes to their religion,they are dummer than a sack of hammers.they drive around in circles to get two hours of service time.they can't differentiate what the fds/gb say is from jehovah god,when in reality it is the stuff that comes out of a horses ass.what the horse eats(as it were food at the proper time from the gb) comes out of the horse as manure(shit sounds better) as a loving provision from jehovah.. .
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Life is short and I'm gonna love it thread!
by poopsiecakes inso what are you doing to enjoy yourself?
doesn't have to be for anyone around you, or have anything to do with jw world.
just something that you do for you and only you and that fills your soul (whatever that means).
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Good food
Gardening
Crafts of various kinds
Fixing and painting old furniture
Sewing
Collage
Movies
Reading
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Humourous DA letter
by besty inright- we've been thinking about this.. .
it seems that most da letters are: doctrinal, personal, emotional or or major issues such un etc .
and completely understandably so..but.. .
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LisaRose
Dear brothers.
For medical reasons, I no longer wish to be known as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I am allergic to hypocrisy, I find I can no longer digest lies and I am pedophile intolerant. My doctor advices me that I must be in a supportive, gossip free environment at all times, and, a I find sitting through hours of meetings gives me a sore backside. Going door to door to tell people they will be destroyed by God just makes me wheeze, so that's out, and the thought of going to a summer convention cause me to break out in hives.
My doctor suggests I engage in regular enjoyable recreation, have freedom of thought and speech and make my own choices in entertainment. For life long good health I am instructed to make personal education and employment goals and to take doses of science and logic, which means I must give up pretending I don't believe in evolution.
So, as you can see, being a Jehovah's Witness just isn't good for me any more.
Sincere yours
Lisa Rose
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San Francisco Giants vs. Kansas City Royals - World Series Winners ?
by flipper inonce again for the 3rd time in 5 years my favorite baseball team the s.f.
giants are headed to the world series !
so who do you think will win this years series and your reasons for your predictions ?
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It was weird, I thought something was going on with Voglesong, I could tell by his face his head wasn't in it, he just looked weird, and then he did a meltdown. Hopefully he feels better knowing it didn't hurt his team any. We all have those moments when the stress gets to us.
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Do you believe that we are living in the last days, and why?
by new light init has been a long time.. thanks to jw.org, i was reading some jw material (what does the bible teach i believe).
it was the first time reading a "book study" book in many years and i was blown away by the controlling, cultish writing.
this question especially struck me as manipulative: do you believe that we are living in the last days, and why?.
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LisaRose
Sorry New Light, we did get off the point of your topic. Yes, the Watchtower is very good at using leading questions to direct your thinking. It's a subtle manipulation. In politics it's known as a push poll. A pollster asks leading questions that are designed to push the person towards a particular response. It can be very effective.
Here is an example from Wikipedia:
Perhaps the most famous use of push polls is in the 2000 United States Republican Party primaries, when it was alleged that George W. Bush's campaign used push polling to torpedo the campaign of Senator John McCain. Voters in South Carolina reportedly were asked "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?" This hypothetical question seemed like a suggestion, although without substance. It was heard by thousands of primary voters. [8] McCain and his wife had in fact adopted a Bengali girl.
The Watchtower is really good at this kind of thing. They even use pictures. They might have a picture of an atom bomb explosion, while asking "Is this world doomed?". The assumption is that of course it is, because we have atom bombs, we must be.
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Mental Disorders among JW's
by Blackfalcon98 inhi everyone, im begining to notice patterns of mental issues in the congregations and among the witnesses as a group.
do you think this is a trend in the entire world or is it exagerated in this organization?.
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LisaRose
It's a cult, so it's not surprising that it attracts some mentally unstable people. I don't recall there being a much higher number of people with severe mental illness, but those people were probably weeded out through disfellowshiping. I knew of one brother that was disfellowshipped, he was hearing voices, they thought he was demonized, it seemed like schizophrenia to me. I also knew a woman who seemed bipolar who was disfellowshipped for adultery.
If you are stalking about milder forms of mental issues like depression, it sure seemed, at least anecdotally, there was a lot. It isn't surprising to me that an organization that demands so much but gives back so little would cause a lot of depression.
So many things are not really supportive of the individual, like:
High demands on personal time for meetings and field service
An environment that constantly emphasizes the bad in the world
Elders that are not trained in mental health issues, but think they are
A culture that doesnt allow criticism of the hierarchy
Secret judicial committee that harshly judge and punish
Lack of personal choice in dress and grooming
An environment that discourages higher education and setting personal career goals
Entertainment and recreation are frowned upon
Women are demeaned and given no responsibilities in the congregation
Children made to sit through hours of boring meetings every week
Congregations offer little social support, people gossip and have cliques
People are judged and "marked" by others over minor personal choice issues
Families are split apart by disfellowshipping
Friendships are conditional
With all that, the question isn't why are so many depressed, it's why isn't every one.
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San Francisco Giants vs. Kansas City Royals - World Series Winners ?
by flipper inonce again for the 3rd time in 5 years my favorite baseball team the s.f.
giants are headed to the world series !
so who do you think will win this years series and your reasons for your predictions ?
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Wow, what a game, Giants come back strong.
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Do you believe that we are living in the last days, and why?
by new light init has been a long time.. thanks to jw.org, i was reading some jw material (what does the bible teach i believe).
it was the first time reading a "book study" book in many years and i was blown away by the controlling, cultish writing.
this question especially struck me as manipulative: do you believe that we are living in the last days, and why?.
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LisaRose
People naturally have a me centric point of view. If you lived during the time of the crusades or the bubonic plague you might think you were in the last days also. Charles Russel though he was in the last days. People tend to worry and focus on the bad, so it's easy to things couldn't get much worse. The reality is that some things are bad, some things are pretty good. Your chances of dying from disease or war are probably fairly low right now. Crime is decreasing in many areas.
Don't say that to a JW though, they have been brainwashed to believe life is hopeless and things are terrible. Of course if you are a JW your life probably is terrible.
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A SPECIAL OCCASION.....
by NAVYTOWN ini came across a saying that i especially like: 'don't ever save anything for a special occasion.
every day you are alive is a special occasion.
compare that to the jw mindset that says this world is a terrible place and that jws will only be truly happy 'someday' when they get to 'paradise'.
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I sell antiques (well, really, just good junk), so I often go to estate sales. I often see lovely things that people got in their life that they put away and never used, it makes me a little sad. I get that people of that generation lived through the depression and learned to save things, but I wonder why they didn't wear that sexy nightgown, drink from those Crystal glasses, or use that silver teapot. The best sales are where you see things people bought on their travels, lovely clothes that were worn and loved, books that were read and enjoyed and furniture that was lived in. These things have a patina that is more interesting to me than any unused item, and tells a story of a life well lived.
It's not a dress rehearsal.
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My anointed mother sleep over!! She hears demon creaking at night and my wife cheats on me!
by Witness 007 invisiting her "lost son" and this morning she says there was demonic "knocking" on the windows and ceiling and she did not sleep.
my wife has her own buisness and works late so her holiness asked me to drive down to see if she was fornicating with anyone....she thinks two worldly people taking an elevator to the 10 floor would have had sex by the 5th floor....thats the quality of anionted alive today...she is not nuts a well respected pioneer nazi..... .
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LisaRose
he fact of the matter is that most of the time, you have to manifest an interest in the occult above and beyond what you might consider normal. The more ignorant you are, the greater the chance you will be harassed too - not that ignorance alone is a factor - but ignorance and keen interest is a catalyst.
I know a local fellow who made a card board ouija board when he was a teen and that's all it took. He has told me all the stories and even someone who moved into his old place has now been having problems with spirits. The common denominator isn't him nor the house - it's the willful ignorance of the people who think there are good spirits and bad spirits and all that soft namby-pamby approach that demons like to feed on.
Demons are not dumb - they know exactly what they are, where they are, where they are at in the stream of time, and have a much greater knowledge of the physical universe than any human alive today. Once you are educated on what they are and what they are trying to do, they generally leave or don't even bother coming around. There are plenty more places for them that are more condusive to the ignorance they feed on - like Africa, South America, Mexico, and 3rd world countries and many catholic dominated cultures.
I left the JWs so I wouldn't have to deal with ignorance like this. There are no demons, there is no Satan. Those stories are just that, stories. I could use a Ouija board while praying to Satan and wearing a pentagram and nothing would happen. Nothing.
Stop being so gullible.