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  Convention Weirdness

  by BlackWolf in

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  well i just got back from 3 days in hell, and geez was this convention strange or what?

  im sure someone's probably made a topic about this already but i can't believe that there weren't any new releases besides the movies.

  has that ever happened before?

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  LisaRose

  I Remember this kind of speculation forty years ago in the run up th 1975, parsing out what was said and not said at the conventions, silly speculation about what it might mean.

  They love it when people read between the lines and start speculating, I think they actually want people to do that. Of course they never say anything themselves that they can be held accountable for later. They have been at this game for well over a hundred years, so why shouldn't they be good at it?

  I remember my mother telling me "brother Dimwit says Armageddon must be close, and he's and elder so he must know". I thought it was pathetic, I had begun to realize how much hope made people gullible. They weren't happy in their current life, they NEEDED it to be over soon and need made them willing to grasp at any hint.
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  Need a Caleb&Sophia-doll?

  by crazy_flickering_light in

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  it`s so crazy:.

  http://4ourkids-shop.com/epages/79abeb7d-1743-402a-b693-f12374c6191f.sf/en_us/?viewobjectpath=%2fshops%2f79abeb7d-1743-402a-b693-f12374c6191f%2fcategories%2fshop.

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  LisaRose

  The fact that it says "inspired by Caleb" tells me that it is not officially licenced.
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  For My Kids

  by myjourney in

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  i haven't been on here much, but every so often i try and keep up with the discussions.

  i'm sure this topic has been talked about before, so my apologies in advance if i'm repeating.. a little about me.... i'm a non baptized jw married to a devout jw.

  both my husband and i were raised in the organization.

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  LisaRose

  That's too bad. Never give up advocating for your children, this is too important. Think of it as a war, not a battle.
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  Introducing myself

  by scratchme1010 in

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  2. experiences

  i just joined the forum, i just want to introduce myself.

  i tried to change my bio in my profile but for some reason i couldn't apply the update.. i was born and raise in the jw organization.

  lived in it for 23 years.

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  LisaRose

  Hello. Welcome to the forum. I am glad you found your way out.

  Lisa 🌹
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  Disfellowshipping Question

  by Elizabeth Thompson in

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  i have been a baptized witness for about 30 years.

  from the time i was a kid.

  i've been the only one in my family who is baptized until 15 years later when my mother got baptized.

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  LisaRose

  I have been away for while, but I suspect you will be disfellowshipped if it comes out that you married a disfellowshipped person. It depends on the elders involved and how much or what you choose to tell them.

  I see no upside to you going to the elders. You know in your heart you have done nothing wrong, a judicial committee will cause nothing but harm.
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  At a regional convention today....

  by Nobodyspecial in

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  it really stands out to me just how phoney the bonds of forced brotherhood are.

  the smiles are paper thin when they see each other in hotels.

  the laughs forced.

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  LisaRose

  I vividly remember my last circuit assembly, as it was the loneliest I have ever felt. I realized I had nothing in common with anyone, no connection, nothing. People are made to be social, but not like that.
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  This is Why I Will Keep Explaining Evolution to ex-JWs

  by cofty in

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  LisaRose

  You do a lot of good here Cofty. I already believed in evolution before I found JWN, but I have learned a lot more about it from you and others here. There is as much evidence for evolution as there is for the fact that the earth revolves around the sun. You can continue to insist that the sun revolves around the earth, because that is the way it appears to you, but you would be foolish, and believing in creationism is just as foolish.
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  Why have there been so many people blind to the corruption of the Watchtower Corporation ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  based from many of the doctrines the wts has come forth with since its existence as publishing house which were obviously incorrect or false and propagated doesn't make you wonder why there were so many who embraced this organization with full devotion and acceptance ?

  even back in the late 1800's there was scrutinizing skepticism to what the leaders of the wts theologically taught.

  millions of people since then have accepted the teachings of a really couple novice bible theologians, who brought forth many weakly supported doctrines such as and concerning that mankind was living in the end times and all of mankind should be prepared for its imminent destruction.. very view other christian based faiths from catholicism or protestantism have made these kind of outlandish doctrinal assertions and they make up an overwhelming greater amount of practicing theologians, to those who achieved a high a level of academic training in bible theory.

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  LisaRose

  It's a cult. They are masters at manipulating people and conditioning them not to question their authority and not to believe anything negative, especially if it's coming from a former member.
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  What should I do?

  by Tameria2001 in

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  hello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.

  originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.

  anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.

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  LisaRose

  Wow, that is rude. Since it is the JWs who have a problem with you, they should be the ones to have to leave early. Why should they cater to them because they made a stink last time? It's like they are being rewarded for being A$$holes.

  Personally I wouldn't bother going, but if you really want to see the family then go and enjoy the time you have and then go off and do something else really fun. Be sure and mention your plans (fancy restruant, great concert, great movie) as they say, living well is the best revenge.
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  Need Suggestions/examples: Guide to helping family & friends break free

  by LisaRose in

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  i was going through my copy of steve hassan's combating cult mind control and it occurred to me that it would be great to have something like this specifically for us ex jehovah's witnesses.

  while this is a great book, the examples he uses are mostly from people that were moonies, as steve is a former moonie and many people that have contacted him for help were relatives of moonies.

  while cults all work basically the same, it would be nice to be have some ideas on things that are specific to jehovah's witnesses.

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  LisaRose

  When Steve Hassan talks about the cult persona, he means the facade people put on to fit into the cult. As we know, JWs do bad things all the time, they are no better than anyone else.

  For example, a person may be a typical JW, clean cut, says he love field service, and watches only PG movies. In reality that guy might really like hard rock and secretly would love to get a tattoo and ride a Harley. He might even do some of those things in secret, but his true personality is not acceptable in the cult.