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  What is the current suicide and mental illness rate among JWs and previous members

  by 060702015 in

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  there seems to be no current data on this information and there is questions concerning the validation of past data.

  apparently there is high rate of mental illness and suicide.

  jehovahs witnesses suicide rate 5 to 10 times above average.

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  LisaRose

  Rolf Furili was a lecturer in Semtic languages, at Oslo University and is a Jehovah's Witness, so this entire study is highly questionable. His chief claim to fame prior to this was defending the Watchtower's questionable fall of Babylon chronology, he is not an expert in the field of mental illness and he has an obvious bias. This is a shameful attempt by the Watchtower to hide their problem with Mental illness and suicide, they have shown in the past that they will use dishonest methods like this to prop up their beliefs.

  From / Wikipedia

  Furuli has attempted to defend the religious views of Jehovah's Witnesses—of which Furuli is a member[3]—including their view that Jerusalem was destroyed by theBabylonians in 607 BC rather than the broadly recognised dating of its destruction in 587 BC.[4]

  Also from Wikipedia

  In a 2004 issue of Journal for the Study of the Old Testament, Lester L. Grabbe, professor of theology at the University of Hull, said of Furuli's study: "Once again we have an amateur who wants to rewrite scholarship. ... F. shows little evidence of having put his theories to the test with specialists in Mesopotamian astronomy and Persian history."[5]
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  Headaches vs. Migraines

  by Coded Logic in

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  a while back a coworker was telling me she had a migraine in the morning and had to take some aspirin before coming to work.

  i was like, "yeah, that wasn't a migraine dear.

  that was just a headache.

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  LisaRose

  Not all migraine headaches involve debilitating pain, but they do usually involve more than just head pain. A few times I got a weird migraine that affected the vision in one eye. The very center of my vision was completely out of focus in a sawtooth pattern. I was alarmed until my husband told me he gets the same thing occasionally. It went away after a few hours.
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  Happy Birthday smiddy

  by smiddy in

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  and a happy birthday to anybody else who born on the 5/7 month.

  smiddy.

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  LisaRose

  Happy Birthday

  🎉🎶🍸👑🎂
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  Convention Weirdness

  by BlackWolf in

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  well i just got back from 3 days in hell, and geez was this convention strange or what?

  im sure someone's probably made a topic about this already but i can't believe that there weren't any new releases besides the movies.

  has that ever happened before?

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  LisaRose

  I Remember this kind of speculation forty years ago in the run up th 1975, parsing out what was said and not said at the conventions, silly speculation about what it might mean.

  They love it when people read between the lines and start speculating, I think they actually want people to do that. Of course they never say anything themselves that they can be held accountable for later. They have been at this game for well over a hundred years, so why shouldn't they be good at it?

  I remember my mother telling me "brother Dimwit says Armageddon must be close, and he's and elder so he must know". I thought it was pathetic, I had begun to realize how much hope made people gullible. They weren't happy in their current life, they NEEDED it to be over soon and need made them willing to grasp at any hint.
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  Need a Caleb&Sophia-doll?

  by crazy_flickering_light in

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  2. beliefs

  it`s so crazy:.

  http://4ourkids-shop.com/epages/79abeb7d-1743-402a-b693-f12374c6191f.sf/en_us/?viewobjectpath=%2fshops%2f79abeb7d-1743-402a-b693-f12374c6191f%2fcategories%2fshop.

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  LisaRose

  The fact that it says "inspired by Caleb" tells me that it is not officially licenced.
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  For My Kids

  by myjourney in

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  i haven't been on here much, but every so often i try and keep up with the discussions.

  i'm sure this topic has been talked about before, so my apologies in advance if i'm repeating.. a little about me.... i'm a non baptized jw married to a devout jw.

  both my husband and i were raised in the organization.

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  LisaRose

  That's too bad. Never give up advocating for your children, this is too important. Think of it as a war, not a battle.
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  Introducing myself

  by scratchme1010 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just joined the forum, i just want to introduce myself.

  i tried to change my bio in my profile but for some reason i couldn't apply the update.. i was born and raise in the jw organization.

  lived in it for 23 years.

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  LisaRose

  Hello. Welcome to the forum. I am glad you found your way out.

  Lisa 🌹
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  Disfellowshipping Question

  by Elizabeth Thompson in

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  i have been a baptized witness for about 30 years.

  from the time i was a kid.

  i've been the only one in my family who is baptized until 15 years later when my mother got baptized.

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  LisaRose

  I have been away for while, but I suspect you will be disfellowshipped if it comes out that you married a disfellowshipped person. It depends on the elders involved and how much or what you choose to tell them.

  I see no upside to you going to the elders. You know in your heart you have done nothing wrong, a judicial committee will cause nothing but harm.
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  At a regional convention today....

  by Nobodyspecial in

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  it really stands out to me just how phoney the bonds of forced brotherhood are.

  the smiles are paper thin when they see each other in hotels.

  the laughs forced.

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  LisaRose

  I vividly remember my last circuit assembly, as it was the loneliest I have ever felt. I realized I had nothing in common with anyone, no connection, nothing. People are made to be social, but not like that.
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  This is Why I Will Keep Explaining Evolution to ex-JWs

  by cofty in

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  LisaRose

  You do a lot of good here Cofty. I already believed in evolution before I found JWN, but I have learned a lot more about it from you and others here. There is as much evidence for evolution as there is for the fact that the earth revolves around the sun. You can continue to insist that the sun revolves around the earth, because that is the way it appears to you, but you would be foolish, and believing in creationism is just as foolish.