My mom was talking on the phone about that today, going on about how it's another step towards armageddon.
And that we will have to survive off the charity of each other. And then she commented on how noone in the congregation has any money, so apparently we are screwed.
Of course, knowing human nature as well as I do, there will NEVER be peace. People like to secure themselves with power. Power is survival. Having allys helps you do that, and you all benifit. But those not with you, are of course, always against you.
It's the source of racism. People of one color don't accept them into thier imaginary "tribe". But then they all fail to realize that we are the same species.
I can't wait till we go to war with aliens, then we will be one big happy family ;) .
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Bush invokes the "Peace and Security" line...
by Bryan intoday in his radio adress, bush said he hoped for isreal & lebenon states living next to each other in "peace and security".. the witnesses must be peeing in their pants!.
i remember when reagan said those special words in the 80's.
we all new the end was close!.
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How being a JW affected me as a person
by keo15929 innot long ago i bet no one from this site would have been able to stand me for 2 seconds.
i was one of the most fiercest jws of all time.
i'd argue until i was blue in the face and i was darn good at it to.
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How do you quote...?
"From what I've seen, most of the young witnesses are living a double life. I have seen very very few witnesses that actually try to obey all the rules."
Well, that's me. I'm thinking of changing though. Maybe it will make people leave me alone when they ask me "How are you doing?" and I say "I'm in a fundamentalist organization trying to rule the world through fear and false hope." -
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Paranoia vs. the Governing Body
by parakeet inin my more paranoiac moments, i wonder if the gb creates its myriad nitpicking rules in order to deliberately create a high turnover of jws.
the advantage to doing this would be to ease the way for "new light" doctrine.
the 1914 generation has passed; the generation after that is passing, and their memories are passing with them.
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I'm thinking along the lines of them being blind.
I don't think they actually realise they are wrong. They probably just put aside thier obvious manipulation, and tell themselves that it's for the good of the many. -
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What do you think about this...?
by jason bourne inperhaps as a jw you experienced events in the ministry or elsewhere that convinced you that jehovah through the angels was directing you to people..or situations.....??.
like for instance, to the house of a suicidal man or to a person that was praying for someone to help them spiritually.... do you have any opinions about this?
i'm just curious...... .
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Coincidence.
My family always said "It was as if the answers to thier questions just CAME to me."
Thats exactly what happened when I had my discussion with mom. The rebuttle and attack to everything she said came to me as if by 'divine influence'. Probably a heightened memory due to adrenaline. Just about everything is boosted by adrenaline... -
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To all who still attend JW meetings
by Stealth infor any who still attend meetings, .
do you still put donations in the contribution box?
if you do and don't have an issue with disclosing, how much each month?
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I've never had a job, so I never donated.
Besides a nickle or two I found on the floor when I was around 4.
Mom usually gave me a check to put in the donation box. I'd always look, and it would always have $100. The last time she did it, I was sorely tempted to take it for myself and destroy it later, but it was her money to waste. Even if that money eventually hurt me by way of her expenses on me.
She hasn't donated recently (it took losing her job to knock some sence into her), but if she does, I think I'll give into the "destroy it later" thought. She will have messed up her checkbook balance...but she won't think I had anything to do with it. -
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Couple of questions...
by AnonyMouse insomeone gave me an explanation, but i didn't really understand it.
what is a dub?
and what does it stand for?
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My mom uses the cliche "It's probably not true if it's too good to be true."
Even though 'life in paradise' never appealed to me (I don't want to die, just an eternity of servitude and perfection sounds boring), it does for everyone else.
I can except death in it's eventiality (far off, I hope). I see it this way: "If I'm dead, I won't be alive to care if I'm alive."
It works even if the JWs are right (I doubt it, but I'm still open-minded enough to give them the ever slightest chance that they are right). -
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What Things Did You Hate About Being A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus in.
anything in particular?
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Stupid format thing...:
1) SUNDAY. I don't know why, but the watch tower just sent this bad vibe at me. Now I know why...
2) Service, you know why...
3) Being complemented after my talks. I havn't heard this one, but it always irritated me when everyone came up to me and said "You did good on your talk..." They never meant it, and it further irritated me that I was being complemented on something I hated doing.
4) Friends. Once I became homeschooled, I lost basically all my freinds. Everyone at my hall was either old, or a girl (an opposite to you folk, as every girl in our hall is EXTREMELY attractive).
5) Personal study. I hated wasting the hour and a half giving mom the answer she wanted. I eventually got past studying for the watchtower, since every single one is formatted in the exact manner, I just skim and underline. It takes 5 mins for the entire thing.
6) People talking to me. They want to know how thigns are going, and I just say "Fine." (or "good" if I'm feeling risky ;) ). Giving them the cold shoulder doesn't get the point to them. I know it's not nice to be mean to them, but I just want to be left alone when I'm in that 'place'. -
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What Things Did You Hate About Being A Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus in.
anything in particular?
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1) SUNDAY. I don't know why, but the watch tower just sent this bad vibe at me. Now I know why... 2) Service, you know why... 3) Being complemented after my talks. I havn't heard this one, but it always irritated me when everyone came up to me and said "You did good on your talk..." They never meant it, and it further irritated me that I was being complemented on something I hated doing. 4) Friends. Once I became homeschooled, I lost basically all my freinds. Everyone at my hall was either old, or a girl (an opposite to you folk, as every girl in our hall is EXTREMELY attractive). 5) Personal study. I hated wasting the hour and a half giving mom the answer she wanted. I eventually got past studying for the watchtower, since every single one is formatted in the exact manner, I just skim and underline. It takes 5 mins for the entire thing. 6) People talking to me. They want to know how thigns are going, and I just say "Fine." (or "good" if I'm feeling risky ;) ). Giving them the cold shoulder doesn't get the point to them. I know it's not nice to be mean to them, but I just want to be left alone when I'm in that 'place'.
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Couple of questions...
by AnonyMouse insomeone gave me an explanation, but i didn't really understand it.
what is a dub?
and what does it stand for?
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Someone gave me an explanation, but I didn't really understand it. What is a dub? And what does it stand for?
I can tell quite easily that some of you people were serving with the JWs for a long time, just by the way you type. You use similar sentance structure and wordings. That leads me to my next questions:
Your status? I'm wondering if, did you get babtized and leave? Were you raised and left? And also, from some things I read, it appears that some of you are still active. I'm not sure why you'd be on this site...
I know there's about a bajillion people that come here, because its been days and already my intro post is buried in the sands of time.
Any other lingo I should be taught?
I read something about "The 8 signs of Mind Control" once, and found it very interesting. I was tempted to use it to counter my mom, even going so far to replace 'mind control' (the average person probably things mind control is restricted to sci-fi) with something else. But then I realised that she would never understand it, then get mad at me for reading it, and just go into a homicidal rage from brain overload. There were some parts that took me several reads to get the general understanding of it. But there were a few parts in error. Most of it, such as "emotional, informational, and situational" made perfect sense.
I'm just confused as to HOW this could have happened? Was there just a complete failure of thought? How can people fall into this? Don't they see the big picture? Can they not see they're being manipulated? And most of all, how can they be so fervent?
I was under the impression from science books that the mother-child bond was very intense. But for my mom to do this to me...it's the first thing ever (aside from taking my favorite toy when I was 3) that has made me cry. I once prided myself over my control of emotions, even through the hormonal changes of my teenage years. But this...is the complete oposite of what I see as fair. To force your child through something like this, or face the consequences, seems to me like it breaks the law. I told my mom that, that the first ammendment should grant me freedom of religion. But she said no. I was surprised, and had to do research on it. From what I could gather from the Child Protective Services website, I actually have no choice but to listen to her.
Unless I'm missing something here...I would have thought that I'd be granted BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS once I at least became completely sentient (I'm thinking I became truly sentient, aware of myself and suroundings completely, at around 13) rather than under 18.
Sorry about that, I just go crazy it seems. One question sets me off, and I have to go into a long rant about things that are irrelevent to the topic. I'll just stop while I'm ahead. -
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Will they Eliminate the District Convention?
by kid-A inok, i am now guilty of feeding into the "big announcement" frenzy on the board!
another poster made an interesting suggestion that the "hypothetical" big announcement may be the elimination of the d.c.. i think this is a real possibility.
its been cut down to 3 days from an original 8 days over the years.
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Rumor has it that Raleigh NC will be giving up a place of some sort for free to use for DCs. For free cleaning.
My family always treats DCs as sacred. My mom sacrificed her job to go to them every year. Maybe that played a factor in her getting fired...
But I suddenly called to mind a scripture that said that all people working in the 'temple' should be paid. I can't quote it (I've trained myself to hear the scripture, turn to it, ignore what was being read, and imediatly discard all assosiated knowledge ;) ). But it was one of those little counters to the insults they give the church, saying that "we clean it for free, so we are better."
I think it was when they built or rebuilt the temple. I dunno, seems like they built the temple at least a thousand times over.