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Core88
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Emotional Reactions to the Loss of the Book Study
by DT ini think the loss of the book study will hit some like a death of a friend.
it will mark the end of an era.
it will forever change the religion of jehovah's witnesses and i believe the change is completely irreversible.. of course, most witnesses will be delighted by this.
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Core88
Glad we are getting some points out that have nothing to say about the thread topic it's self, and we are laughing and enjoying our crazy ass selves..., however as I stated earlier where is the evidence that the BS is going away? Anyone, really enough BS about the BS, show me the money...erm facts. Thanks Core88
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Emotional Reactions to the Loss of the Book Study
by DT ini think the loss of the book study will hit some like a death of a friend.
it will mark the end of an era.
it will forever change the religion of jehovah's witnesses and i believe the change is completely irreversible.. of course, most witnesses will be delighted by this.
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Core88
One thing I enjoy now that I am not in the Dub's is evidence! All this talk of doing away with the BS two full topics about it links to this thread on the main freeminds.org website, and so far not a single drop of evidence to show that this is in fact a REAL change...I feel like you all have gone back to being Kool-Aid drinkers!? Why the long winded remarks and no evidence, where is this bit of information coming from? Thanks Core88
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Your JW Relatives Have 2 Personalities - Cult & Authentic- See the Change
by flipper inin steve hassan's book, " combatting cult mind control" - one of the points that assisted me the most is understanding that all cult members have a " cult " personality which turns on when defending their faith, and they have an authentic, non - cult personality they were born with- the personality they had before being programmed by the jehovah's witnesses or any other " cult".
how is this dual cult/ authentic personality manifest ?
hassan mentions in his book that, " one moment the person is speaking cultic jargon with a hostile or elitist know-it-all attitude .
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Core88
I am reading that book right now. I heard about it from this website and feel like it has helped me see the friends and family that I had in the group are just doing what they are programed to do, and I take there actions in shunning me less personally and that really does help me in living with this pain. However I also have more tools at my disposal in my desire to help my family break free, and the "john-cultist" or "john-john" personality is what I have started to look for, and I know that when I see the cult mind present that that is not the time for direct attacks because the "shields" are up in those moments...however if my mom's normal self is in control I know that is a better time to try and reason with her. Thanks guys, it's been awhile since I posted here, look for more of me. Love you guys. Core88
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Reasoning with spouses using the 09/07 KM article
by sir82 ini am still working on my wife, some progress is being made, but it is slow going.. here is how i plan to reason with her regarding the 9/07 km article on "non-endorsed" methods of study.
feel free to use or adapt yourself, if you are in a similar situation.. .
suppose that one day a stranger calls the house when i am not at home.
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Core88
Oh and to all using the "FDS" to refer to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses let's not be confusing to people. They are not the FDS spoken of in the Bible! Thanks Core88
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Faith?
by Core88 ini think of you all allot for the helpful thoughts, and comments that you sent my way this past week.
i think one of my problems is that now that i don't have the routine of going to the meetings and feeling my head with the watchtower and awake, i seem to have little faith in anything now....i don't feel like i "know" god anymore.
every time i have gone to another church i just don't seem to fit in and feel "at home" like i used to at my old kingdom hall.
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Core88
Well R.F. by more I guess one of the things I mean by that is that I would you know like to hear or see this God fellow, or maybe like see something that's would be for sure a miracle, to know he is real. Corey
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Faith?
by Core88 ini think of you all allot for the helpful thoughts, and comments that you sent my way this past week.
i think one of my problems is that now that i don't have the routine of going to the meetings and feeling my head with the watchtower and awake, i seem to have little faith in anything now....i don't feel like i "know" god anymore.
every time i have gone to another church i just don't seem to fit in and feel "at home" like i used to at my old kingdom hall.
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Core88
Well well well...Swalker ah? Another fan of Star Wars here on the board, cool! Yes I bought Ray Franz book last year and read it as well as another book by a woman who left the society, the title of which escapes me atm, and yeah it sounds like we have done the same thing. I too have done countless hours of reading and learning since leaving the Org. and know it just seems like my studying has not lead me anywhere...I just don't know what to believe in anymore, I have spent hours looking at Islam, going to the local mosque for Friday prayers, and studying the Qua ran. They are very strict and not very reasonable and yet upon going to other Church's like the catholic Church I see the same thing, a very rule oriented organized power center and and I feel as if my individuality is under attack in these places as well as in the "Truth" and yet I don't want to give up my hope in God as a number of other ones I know and hang out with have done. Just fucking confused thats all. Corey
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Faith?
by Core88 ini think of you all allot for the helpful thoughts, and comments that you sent my way this past week.
i think one of my problems is that now that i don't have the routine of going to the meetings and feeling my head with the watchtower and awake, i seem to have little faith in anything now....i don't feel like i "know" god anymore.
every time i have gone to another church i just don't seem to fit in and feel "at home" like i used to at my old kingdom hall.
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Core88
Thanks for your thought R.F. I just think that after awhile of that I have stopped listening to God and now I want "more" as it were. A bit like Anikin Skywalker in episode 3 of Star Wars...you know like I want more..and I know I shouldn't. Corey
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Faith?
by Core88 ini think of you all allot for the helpful thoughts, and comments that you sent my way this past week.
i think one of my problems is that now that i don't have the routine of going to the meetings and feeling my head with the watchtower and awake, i seem to have little faith in anything now....i don't feel like i "know" god anymore.
every time i have gone to another church i just don't seem to fit in and feel "at home" like i used to at my old kingdom hall.
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Core88
Hi, everyone. I think of you all allot for the helpful thoughts, and comments that you sent my way this past week. I think one of my problems is that now that I don't have the routine of going to the meetings and feeling my head with the Watchtower and Awake, I seem to have little faith in anything now....I don't feel like I "know" god anymore. Every time I have gone to another Church I just don't seem to fit in and feel "at home" like I used to at my old Kingdom Hall. When I was a MS and a pioneer in my late teens I really felt special and important. And now that all that is gone, and I don't have that support, I get lost in my own thought and feelings I am quit selfish, and I don't any longer see why I should not just go with that, and at the same time I don't feel comfortable with that kind of attitude in my life. I have started to smoke and I feel bad about that too, not just because it was something I was told to hate as a witness, but also because my "worldly" mate hates me doing it. I don't think I had the rebel kind of attitude as a witness teen and now it seem like here as a 26 yr. old man with a SON I am going through that. It's like Life has just shown it's self to me in the last 3 years by hitting me up side the face with a brink and saying: "LOOK! This is what life is like WAKE UP F##@er!!!"...and I struggle with weather or not I really want to face the "real world". I am always scared and immobilized by the events of the last few years since my "spiritual" breaking point? So how are you all doing, do most of you retain faith and if so how do you do it? Core
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Last Post
by Core88 ini have a family a son and a girl friend out of wedlock that's why i am disfellowshiped.
i hate my "lie" life.
and now is the time.
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Core88
I am here. So sorry to scary everyone, I have not been feeling very good today. My Internet connection has also been down for most of the day, I appreciate the loving thoughts and hope to take some of you up on it... it's so hard to talk to others, when you have spent so long trying to live on "stage" always giving the best "impression" of yourself to others so you could give a silent witness. Hard to let ones know how bad you really are and sinful. I almost never trust anyone now that everyone I grew up trusting shuns me now, kind of fucks up your ablity to trust others and to ever know if anyone is real and sincere about anything. I many times wonder if I am ever truly real and sincere. I hope you all will relax now, I am sorry you got so upset but I was in a very dark mood last night, I have thought about killing myself, for the last few years now and have done some of the things mentioned in the past to pull myself out of that funk and make it one more day, just let that feeling have a little to much control last night, I want to assure you that I am fine today and thanks for all the loving expressions. Core