My mom asked me today if I had received my May KM yet. I wish I could have been honest and said, "Of course not mom, I don't go to the kingdom hall anymore and haven't set foot in one in over 10 years", but instead I said "Not yet mom, probably tomorrow night". Anyway, she said something about the part where they usually make the announcement about the upcoming summer conventions instead saying something about a "Global Campaign with World Wide implecations". Then she went on to remark how close the government here (USA) was getting along with the Pope this weekend and how fast everything is coming to a head. Any info or comments on this???
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Global Campaign with World Wide implecations???
by YoungAmerican inmy mom asked me today if i had received my may km yet.
i wish i could have been honest and said, "of course not mom, i don't go to the kingdom hall anymore and haven't set foot in one in over 10 years", but instead i said "not yet mom, probably tomorrow night".
anyway, she said something about the part where they usually make the announcement about the upcoming summer conventions instead saying something about a "global campaign with world wide implecations".
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Elder confirms "changes are ahead" but did not elaborate
by truthseeker inthe elder conducting the wt study said that changes were imminent but did not elaborate so unless someone spills the beans between now and next week, i guess we'll all have to wait.. right now we have three possibilities:.
1) the meetings are being restructured - rumors suggest that the congregation book study may no longer be held at private homes.
however, if they are held at kingdom halls, this will have significant impact on congregations that already share a kingdom hall.. it has been suggested that most announcments are made at the service meeting and i concur, but if this is a restructuring of meetings, then it would make sense to announce this on a sunday as the public would be present and the handbills will have to change.. if the book study stays perhaps it will be conbined with the school and service meeting with a question and answer review of the material with no paragraphs read.. .
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YoungAmerican
I was just speaking to my mother this morning and she asked me if I had received my May Kingdom Ministry yet (she thinks I am still in the borg). She said something about reading the last paragraph or something that it is usually where they make the announcements about the upcoming conventions. She just said they are going to be announcing a "Global Campaign" of some sort and that it will have "World Wide" implecations. Any one know anything else yet???
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Does anyone else feel like this???
by YoungAmerican ini don't post much but sure do love reading everyone else's post.
everyone here for the most part seems so normal (for apostates, haha).
so, i was born and raised a jw, baptized at 14, disfellowshipped at 17, reinstated at 28. the only reason i think i did that was because after 10 years of no contact with my father, mother and little sister they came to visit me (they lived on the east coast i live on the west coast) and i was so overwhelmed with seeing them and talking to them and hugging them, i wanted so much to please them and have a relationship with them again that i fooled myself into thinking i needed the "organization" and jehovah's approval to be worthy of their love.
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YoungAmerican
I just got back to read all of your responses and words of encouragement. Thank you all so much. I have found so many postings here to be very enlightning and uplifting. I left the borg because I was young and never, ever felt the true attachment I was taught I should feel for Jehovah. I really, really tried for so very long too. I figured at some point, if I was doing everything I was suppose to, that the "holy spirit" would somehow, someway finally make me feel whole. Well, it never happened! And you can only fake it for so long without becoming utterly exhausted by the effort of keeping up the pretenses. I am lucky that I do not have to do this on a regular basis since I only see my family rarely, but like I said, I do talk on the phone regularly. There isn't a phone call that goes by that my mom doesn't say something like "just hang in there honey, this old system won't last much longer" or "things are getting so bad, Jehovah knows we can only last a little bit longer, just hang on a little longer" etc.... So, thank you all again so much. We were always taught that appostates were so evil, I always pictured them all as wide-eyed, demonized, fanatics. I know, again, just another terrible lie the organizations spews out. Everyone here has been so warm and welcoming. Truly, THANK YOU ALL!
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Does anyone else feel like this???
by YoungAmerican ini don't post much but sure do love reading everyone else's post.
everyone here for the most part seems so normal (for apostates, haha).
so, i was born and raised a jw, baptized at 14, disfellowshipped at 17, reinstated at 28. the only reason i think i did that was because after 10 years of no contact with my father, mother and little sister they came to visit me (they lived on the east coast i live on the west coast) and i was so overwhelmed with seeing them and talking to them and hugging them, i wanted so much to please them and have a relationship with them again that i fooled myself into thinking i needed the "organization" and jehovah's approval to be worthy of their love.
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I met my husband shortly after I was DF'd. We lived together for 5 years and then we were married. We have now been together for 29 years, married for 24. Funny how our "worldly" marriage has lasted longer than alot of JW's marriages.
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Does the news still scare anyone else?
by YoungAmerican ini was just wondering how many of you still get a quezy feeling in your stomach after hearing someone on the news use the phrase "peace and security" or after reports on the news of all the large earthquakes that have been reported this last week or so?
i know we can all rationalize that there are always earthquakes and wars etc.... but i swear, no matter how hard i try to shake the sick feeling in my stomach when i hear all this stuff i can't seem to do it.
i still have visions in my head of what armagedon will be like from all the pictures i grew up seeing in the publications, talk about scarred for life.
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I was just wondering how many of you still get a quezy feeling in your stomach after hearing someone on the news use the phrase "Peace and Security" or after reports on the news of all the large earthquakes that have been reported this last week or so? I know we can all rationalize that there are always earthquakes and wars etc.... but I swear, no matter how hard I try to shake the sick feeling in my stomach when I hear all this stuff I can't seem to do it. I still have visions in my head of what Armagedon will be like from all the pictures I grew up seeing in the publications, talk about scarred for life. The thought of that and especally now that I have kids, what it would be like to see your kids getting pelted with huge, flaming rocks from the dark clouded skys while people are running, screaming all around you (any one else remember these pictures?) I still second guess myself all the time with the "what if it IS true" scenerio. This religion has scarred my life and I don't think I will ever be able to shake the "what if" feeling except maybe when I have finally grown old and am on my death bed , then I might finally believe that it really was all a sham and feel safe. But by then I will have wasted my life being afraid all the time. Geez, I can't win can I? I think I need some counseling, but honestly, I don't even think that would help. I know though, that I really have felt better after reading many post on this site, as everyone has made me really see how unhealthy and dishonest this organization really is. The fear that was ingrained in me during my upbringing just won't go away. Anyone else feel this way???
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Does anyone else feel like this???
by YoungAmerican ini don't post much but sure do love reading everyone else's post.
everyone here for the most part seems so normal (for apostates, haha).
so, i was born and raised a jw, baptized at 14, disfellowshipped at 17, reinstated at 28. the only reason i think i did that was because after 10 years of no contact with my father, mother and little sister they came to visit me (they lived on the east coast i live on the west coast) and i was so overwhelmed with seeing them and talking to them and hugging them, i wanted so much to please them and have a relationship with them again that i fooled myself into thinking i needed the "organization" and jehovah's approval to be worthy of their love.
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Hi everyone,
I don't post much but sure do love reading everyone else's post. Everyone here for the most part seems so normal (for apostates, haha).
So, I was born and raised a JW, baptized at 14, disfellowshipped at 17, reinstated at 28. The only reason I think I did that was because after 10 years of no contact with my father, mother and little sister they came to visit me (they lived on the east coast I live on the west coast) and I was so overwhelmed with seeing them and talking to them and hugging them, I wanted so much to please them and have a relationship with them again that I fooled myself into thinking I needed the "organization" and Jehovah's approval to be worthy of their love. Anyway, I tried, tried to stay interested, go to meeting, study, go in service, answer at the book study and WT study, have parts on the service meeting and ministry school, etc... Everything a good JW should do. I mistakenly thought that if I made myself do these things, that sooner or later it would feel "right" and "natural" and I would finally be one of Jehovah's people "on the inside" and not just on the outside. Well it never happened and I became so tired of all the obligations, all the meetings and so tired of the double life. I had a husband and 3 kids, 2 jobs, life was just too busy to be sitting hours each week killing myself trying to stay awake and interested in meetings. So I finally stopped going more or less, faded I guess you'd say and have had no contact as far as meetings or elder visits or anything since my father passed away in 1998, yeah, a long time ago, I know. But I still feel the need to lie to my mother and sister and other family members (who all live out of state) that I am still a JW for fear of losing them again. I go and visit them only every few years if that (can't afford more) but do talk often on the phone with them. They have no idea I have been out for so long. When I visit, I go to meetings with them and assemblies days or whatever and just keep up the cherade. Anyway, sorry I am rambling but sometimes so much just starts coming out when I start on this subject. I feel like such a loser that I can't "fess up", geez, I am a 46 year old woman who is still afraid of disappointing my family. My mom is not well, and I honestly think if she found out the truth it would be real real hard on her and I just can't even think about that, I love my mom! She is a really sweet, sweet lady but believes EVERYTHING the organization says, unquestioned. I keep thinking that maybe after my mom is gone it might be easier, but I don't want to lose my sister either, she is all the family I have left really, that I care about anyway. My grandmother and father are gone and mom and sis are the only true family other than aunts and uncles and cousins and I don't really have any kind of relationship with any of them that I would miss out on all that much anyway. I don't know really what I'm asking here. I guess I just needed to vent, this organization is soooooo wrong in what it does to our frame of mind. Thanks for reading.
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How many remember the 1969 8 day convention?
by seek2find inanybody remember the 8 day 1969 international convention.
i was at the braves stadium in atlanta all 8 days with a sunburn and then wet clothes after the rain storms.
if you were there (not necessarily in atlanta) do you remember anything about it?
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I was at the assembly at old Cominski Park in Chicago too! We arrived by school bus as our hall was from Chicago (Uptown Congregation). I remember the tents, those tall wood tables we had to stand at to eat. I don't remember seeing the moon landing though. That was actually shown at the assembly???? I was only 8 at the time so I really don't remember anything. I only had to pretent like I was listening, I learned how to day dream alot from those days just to keep from dying of boredom.
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Another one bites the dust
by YoungAmerican inreceived this email from a family member who still thinks i am a active jw.. good morning all,.
just a bit of sad news, in case you have not already heard.. beloved member of the governing body, brother carey barber finished his earthly course yesterday morning.
he would have been 102 years od this july.
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Received this email from a family member who still thinks I am a active JW.
Good morning all,
Just a bit of sad news, in case you have not already heard.
Beloved member of the Governing Body, Brother Carey Barber finished his earthly course yesterday morning. He would have been 102 years od this July.
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Angry, humiliated and in pain
by brunnhilde indubs just stopped by.
saw my husband working outside and literally chased him around the back of the house and pounded and called through the sliding glass door.
when we ignored it, he went around to the front and pounded and called through that door.
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I had sort of a similar experience yesterday to my horror. See I have been quitely hiding for years now from them after fading and moving to a new home 7 years ago. I never answered the door when they came to the door and they don't know my husband. So, here I am yesterday morning sitting on my loveseat, which is full view of the front door talking very loudly and I hear a hard knock on my open door. It caught me so off guard! Who is it but an old elder from my old congregation saying he is just in the neighborhood inviting everyone to the memorial. He hasn't recognized me yet but I am so flustered, I just get up and go to the door and kind of turn my head and not look him in the eye, take the invite and then he says "SISTER xxxxxxxxx???" I about died. I was hoping after 7 years I would not be recognized but he did of course. I just closed and locked my screen and walked away. As I slumped back into my living room my face was red and my husband and kids were asking what was wrong. I can just see it coming from now on. They know where I live and will be bugging me now. I have quitely faded without my family who live back east knowing. I don't know what's going to happen now.
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My mother has provided the bread for many, many years at her expense. She has never been offered reimbursement for the things she had to purchase and she is sick and on a fixed income since my father (an elder) passed away 8 years ago. She had to buy everything for the table, including the cloth and make the bread. What a huge ordeal for her but she would never give it up until finally this year they gave the resposibility to someone else. My mother is on dialisis every other day and is nearly blind and they still had her doing this. I am glad she doesn't have to anymore. She would go out and by new pans to cook the bread in and serving dishes and everything so nothing was tainted!