((((((((..and now, the elders are clearly supposed to ask all these personal questions so that they can determine what type of sexual sin you committed.))))))))))))))))) The elders ask all those "questions" so they can go home and fantasize about it!! I have known of several elders who while sitting on people's judicial committees were themselves visiting prostitutes, having affairs or where active pedophiles.
okie46
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How Many Here Have Ever Been Before A Judicial Committee???
by minimus ini've been on plenty of jcs but i never was the target of the elders, judicially.....although i would be now.
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Public Reproof: What is it? Has it ever happend in your Hall or to you?
by jayhawk1 inwhat is public reproof?
does the watchtower corp still use it?
do they use a judicial committee for it?
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okie46
RE the "earning back of privileges"... I was publicly reproved in 1997, for having sex after being slipped something in my drink while on a date with a "worldly man". I went to all the meetings, went in regular field service and stopped my "worldly association" after that, I was very sincere about trying to make amends for my bad judgement, although I was allowed to comment after about 6 months, I was never told after that time that I could give talks or presentations or was considered again in good standing. By 2003, I didn't give a rats ass anyway about their opinion.
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Were you a bathroom breaker?
by Mysterious ini swear my mother used to keep better track of my bladder than i did.
she'd sit me down occasionally for talks such as "i noticed you've been going to the bathroom a lot during the meetings lately maybe we need to cut down on what you drink on meeting nights" etc.
others would go 2 or 3 times a meeting and if i went twice a week i'd get a talk about it!
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okie46
""I forgot how I used to wait until paragraph 9 of the wt. Then I knew I was half way done, and went to the bathroom""" Momofmany... that is hilarious, I usually waited til paragraph 7 or 8.
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Were you a bathroom breaker?
by Mysterious ini swear my mother used to keep better track of my bladder than i did.
she'd sit me down occasionally for talks such as "i noticed you've been going to the bathroom a lot during the meetings lately maybe we need to cut down on what you drink on meeting nights" etc.
others would go 2 or 3 times a meeting and if i went twice a week i'd get a talk about it!
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okie46
At our hall that is where all the elders wives went to chat and gossip during the meetings.
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Sunday Evening Thread
by KW13 in.
so what are you doing this fine sunday evening (now or later for some...maybe you've even had your evening already).
i am going to be eating pizza, with my gf and watching tv and thats about it.
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okie46
I went on a dinner date with "a really nice guy", only to find out mid-dinner that he has been dating someone for a year, they have been off and on lately, but that she called him back up today wanting to get back together, but he couldn't call her back yet because she was at work. Then why was he out with me? Uuuggggggggggggghhhhh!! So now I am doing my usual Sunday night activities... watching Greys Anatomy and on the internet.
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Anyone forcibly removed?
by Wordly Andre innot sure if this has been talked about but,
when i was about 12, my family and i were sitting in the middle of the kingdumb hall, i was seated at the end of the aisle, and some lady sitting about 7 rows in front of us got up and started yelling, and ran up to the speaker, two guys grabbed her and took her outside, we never saw her again, but i do remember all the rumors about her, and what she did, i saw her clearly but people were saying that she tried to attack the elder with a knife, i did not see a knife, other rumors were drugs, demons, apostate, etc.
has anyone here been removed from the kingdumb hall by force?
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okie46
RE: This hall was in a bad part of town and after that the doors were locked five minutes before the start of every meeting and you could not go outside for any reason during the meeting! I know this may be a little off topic.. but they locked the doors after our meetings started starting a few years back and isn't that illegal???? I thought locking the doors on a public place is against fire codes.. How do the Congregations get away with locking the doors with hundreds of people inside?
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Any Dubs in your Hall that were puportedly "Demonized"?
by Sailor Ripley inwe had a whole family that moved into our congo when i was about 10. they had kids from 6 to 16-years-old.
there was always talk of their beds spinning and shoes floating, et cetera.
they lived in a literal shack so i didn't want to go there to spend the night, but i always wanted to go and "check it out" to see some fireworks.
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okie46
In the early 80's the "Demon" craze was really thick in Oklahoma. When my oldest son was 2-1/2, he thought he was "Superman" and jumped off his bed during the night and broke his collarbone, then shortly thereafter, my daughter who was 9 months old, fell while trying to climb out of her crib. An Elder who was in the McAlester cong. told my ex-husband and I that the demons were responsible for this and also our lack of progress spiritually. This Elder and another brother came over and inspected our house and asked us a bunch of questions, the Elder freaked out when our WT literature wasn't on display (I had it in an enclosed cabinet)and told us we should have our literature out in the open. Then the Elder decided that my Grandparents were the reason for "our demon problem" because my Grandparents had a Ouija board in their garage. The Elder said that anything my Grandparents had given us was demonized and we should get rid of it. By the time the deal was over with, I was told to get rid of almost everything I owned of value, furniture, silverware, wedding gifts, etc., because this Elder was sure that it was all demon possessed because family members that were not JW's had given the stuff to us. Being meek and uneducated young marrieds who had both been raised as JW's, we did what the brothers said and for years refused any gifts from my Grandparents thinking they were demonized. We were terrified. Now I think back on all of this and I am really pissed off because I got rid of silverware given to me by my Grandmother that now would be such a treasure to have because of the memories. Idiots.
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R Rated Movies
by Swamboozled infor those of you who tried to follow the no rated r movies "suggestion", what rated r movie did you run out and get after you decided the society could shove their "suggestions"?
i was dying to see both matrix movies, so they were the first i rented.
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okie46
The first R-Rated movie I saw was "9 and 1/2 weeks" with Kim Basinger and Mickey Rourke. Wow.
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okie46
Ingenuous.. your post expresses so many of the feelings I have felt myself. I was also raised as a JW. If the "organization" is all that someone has ever known, it is terrifying to actually know what to do or believe in once you break free. I was disfellowshipped twice and went back, because of fear of the unknown, loss of the cushion, heartbreak at the pain I felt I was causing believing family members and my own heartbreak at not knowing if I was doing the "right thing". The "partying" that led to my being disfellowshipped twice before was only a symptom of trying to escape the complete control exercised over my life by everyone except me. It has only been since actually researching the actual history of the WT and learning the truth about the WT organization and the beliefs, that I have been strong enough to finally leave of my own accord. The kicker for me was learning that the WT was an NGO member of the United Nations until 2001. All those years of hearing how we should "be no part of the world" and all that time the WT was doing exactly what they told us not. On top of that, as far as I know, they have never even admitted to it's members that they had an association with the UN. That was it for me. This time, I told them "I no longer wish to be known as one of Jehovah's Witnesses". I could no longer belong to an organization built on lies and deceit. Even though I have experienced family pressure to return, my poor Mother is heartbroken and worries about me constantly, my sister who will no longer speak to me, my three beautiful children all still active, I realized I could finally think for myself and could not belong to something I could not believe in. I could no longer be a part of an organization built on lies. I would not be a hypocrite.
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As An Ex or Fading Witness, Do You Have Any Goals?
by minimus indo you hope to accomplish anything at this point in your life?
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okie46
These are my goals as a an Ex JW(DA 2003 - due to finding out what hypocrites they really are): 1) To get over my lifelong guilt complex, to get rid of the feeling that I was never good enough. 2) To be able to conquer my fear that I made the wrong decision and will in fact be destroyed at Armageddon, in spite of never really being able to believe everything I heard from the WT or being able to follow all the ridiculous demands made on us. 3) To deal with the heartbreak of my beloved daughter never speaking to me again, of the thought that I may never be able to be a part of my grandchildren's lives, if my daughter ever has children. 4) To deal with the loneliness I feel at having to start my life over, and to learn how to make friends and find my new place in life and not feel so isolated. 5) To figure out where I really belong and what I really belive. To find faith and trust again. 6) To finish my college education and become a Respiratory Therapist before I am 50. 7) To find and maintain a healthy loving relationship based on mutual respect, and a joint passion for learning and exploring new ideas and ways of life and actually helping others to really find true happiness. 8) To actually enjoy life for the first time.