our kingdom hall was started in 1973 with only 3 families totaling 13 people.it grew to 85 members in the early 90's and that's because many were related to these 3 families.with older members dying,the young leaving when they reach 18, 5 divorces and many disfellowshipped,the congregation is down to 26 members.talk about low morale.
where is jehovah's blessing now?
I live in a very metropolitan city area with many kingdom halls and congos. I would say that overall attendance is down (yeah!!), but they can rally the troups (bummer) when they need to.
I was so hoping more and more would be investigating. questiong, researching...doing SOMETHING! They may well be...but none of my friends have faded; only me.
One can only hope.
during his visit, what exactly does the circuit overseer discuss with the body of elders with regards to inactive publishers?.
are inactive publishers even on the agenda?
or is this of no concern to the co and pretty much left to the discretion of the local boe?.
I agree with Blondie, as visiting "upper level management" they are supposd to look at the DF's, DA's and inactive ones. But I have suspected for a while why their report given on Sunday didn't seem to match my memory of what had happened with people in the congo. I figured our sneaky Secretary just pulled out some cards so the congo didn't look bad if asked if they were not following up on these ones.
I am now almost sure. I have been inactive for 5 years now after 40+ years of consistent active pub status. And I did not have one call or one word until recently when they were supposed to be following up after the Katrina thing.
So as flawed of a system as it is, it is still a system to look after the flock. However, I feel it is not followed through on the most part.
watch the record spin and the judge preach:.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk8j9fbu014.
Eeeeeewwww...gives me the shivers.
We used to have those albums.
hi folks, .
i,ve been lurking for ages and had a password months ago.
only today i've been able to get in.
Welcome Do Not Call, from one fader to another.
I'm happy as well!!!
i remember asking an elder once, "what do you think about meditation?
" he responded that we should not relax and open our minds, as opening our minds can let demons in.
i thought that seemed like a odd response, and looked it up in the watchtower, and sure enough he gave the societies views on meditation.
Being raised a JW, I had all the brainwashing regarding the demons taking over an empty mind. Therefore, when I started using a meditation CD called "The Daily Dose," it was really HARD to get my mind quiet and following the guided mediation. But I benefitted tremedously from even the little bit of focus I received from doing it.
I have seen some crazy demon things through the years, but now that I think about it, nothing in like the last 20 years. And I think they came to visit me a night they attacked a sister I knew. She took interest in spiritistic things, I didn't and won't have anything to do with them.
There are several programs as mentioned that are introductory to meditation...I would recommend anyone investigating it and doing it to their comfort level, which will get broader as you go along. It calms the heart, mind...it helps you focus and gives you clarity. It is a wonderful thing.
I am reading a fascinating book called "The Power of the Subconsious Mind" by Joseph Murphy. It helps you understand how powerful thoughts are and how important it is to seed the mid with positive thoughts/words. The results are amazing. Thoughts are energy, and you can change life by changing the way you think. I am so loving this knowledge.
Good luck!
do you find youself still calling it "the truth" even though you are an ex-jw?
for instance, in one posting i just read, the poster wrote "when i was in the truth..." .
not a big deal, perhaps, but really not such a good thing either as it's a habitual holdover from the program of mental conditioning we were subject to.
Nope.
Depending on who I am talking to, I might say "when I went to meetings" type thing. Or referring to someone else, I say "they are JW's."
I don't wish to get hung up on semantics either, but I believe in the power of the subconscious mind; I don't want to refer truth at all to anything WTBS. I'm done.
monday, december 18. .
moseswasbyfarthemeekestofallthemenwhowereuponthesurfaceoftheground.num.12:3.. among the many bible examples that highlight how humble people are favored with a glimpse of gods glory is moses, who enjoyed an intimate relationship with god.
this humble man, who spent 40 years as a lowly shepherd, likely much of it on the arabian peninsula, was highly favored by the creator in many ways.
"Moses was by far the meekest of all the men who were upon the surface of the ground..." Even if Moses says so himself!!
i know it's already been discussed a bit on the board but i just wanted some advice.
i've been fading for a little while and my problem is this how does one fade successfully without getting caught out or hasselled non stop.
the funny thing is i do actually have all the medical prolems that were mentioned in a previous thread (chronic fatigue syndrome, depression, migraines and that's just for starters) but i've had these for years and have still kept on going to the meetings regularly, i even pioneered, which i now realize was absolute madness.
I agree with everybody's post.
Mention anything "female" issues, and they are bound to leave you alone. Whatever family or health issues you have, use it to the extent you can. Eventually, they will just write you off.
Then move if you can...new start.
i used nice quality card-stock.
taped pleasantly to the door to greet the morning door knock crowd.
wonder if they used it for the 'daily text'?.
Can anybody pick out Abraham, Moses, Joshua or David?
Anybody?
has anyone heard about what is going on inside the organization these days regarding those who claim to be "anointed" christians?
i have had at least three different people now who live in different areas of the country tell me that the elders are systematically pushing out people who claim to have become anointed within the last few years.
these would be younger ones who are now professing the heavenly rather than earthly hope.. i find this interesting for several reasons.
In the "infamous" '90's WT article, (I think it's the one regarding the new "understanding" of the signs in the heavens Matt 24), there was a reference to the remnant not living through Armageddon. I think it said something to the effect that there was "no need" for the remnant to endure what the other poor schleps have to suffer through. (Okay...they didn't say it exactly like that. LOL) I'm at work, can't look it up. So the buzz in our conversation circles was "what does THAT mean?"
They are developing their dogma as they go along, I agree. I also agree the numbers of the 144K do not add up with historical martyrs and IBS/JW statistics.
Their whole ideology hangs on the mystery of Matt 24:45-47, who they are and what they have to say. What a joke.
