zed, it was always hard to find. Strangely, my brain can sort of "smell" just thinking about it. It must be somewhere still.
Posts by Dagney
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Perfume / Cologne
by LouBelle inthere are some perfumes that i absolutely just love and a little squirt of it can bring back such good memories, make you feel sexy.
my favorite is dolce & gabbana (red), followed by d&g "the one", followed by coco chanel .
on men, i love the smell of the original hugo boss - used to make my tummy clench in a good way .
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Perfume / Cologne
by LouBelle inthere are some perfumes that i absolutely just love and a little squirt of it can bring back such good memories, make you feel sexy.
my favorite is dolce & gabbana (red), followed by d&g "the one", followed by coco chanel .
on men, i love the smell of the original hugo boss - used to make my tummy clench in a good way .
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Dagney
Angel, and Angel variants, and now mostly for the past 3-4 years, Pinksugar, for some reason, Cashmere Mist.
I did buy in a gift store a fragance that had tobacco/leather and musk in it that I really really like.
In the past, White Linen, Obsession and variants, Channel 22, Shalimar...
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What would you tell someone who wants to become a JW?
by slimboyfat inwhat would be the most important things you think someone should be aware about jws if they are planning on getting baptised as a jw?
imagine you are on a plane and get talking to the person next to you.
you find out they are considering becoming a jw but they are not sure.
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Dagney
I'd tell them that every single non-JW friendship and relationship they have currently, friend and family alike, is in serious jeopardy should they become a JW. Even JW friendships are contingent on them being a regular and active Witness for the remainder of their lives. Vacations and leaves of absences are not allowed in regards to being an active JW. You are expected to be preaching their word until you draw your last breath.
Yes, I think making it as personal as you can is important. How it will affect their life...it's just not like an innocent bible study, as JW's like to present, nor is it like joining the church down the street. The person can ose is life or everybody in it if they make a different/disapproved choice as a JW.
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Were You Ever Interrogated By The Elders?
by minimus insome elders enjoy giving the business to the lowly flock thru intimidation.
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some love to ask you to enter with them into the "backroom".. of course, there were many that never had run-ins with the shepherds because they were under the radar.. did you ever get interrogatted by the elders and if so, how did it go??
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Dagney
I was approached after a Sunday meeting by a newbie elder that they wanted to meet with me and my roommate after the next meeting. I wasn't thinking and said "okay". I then told my roommate who was very outspoken, and she marched right over to the elder and asked if it was a committee meeting. He said "no". She asked who was going to be there, and he named 2 elders. She asked him why were 3 elders going to there if it wasn't an elders's meeting. He hemmed and hawed. She told him we'd get back to him.
Her father was an elder so we asked him what to do. He said to name our time not their time, and request only 2 elders. So she called the elder back and told him we would not meet after the meeting because we were uncomfortable doing that, and we agreed on another time.
Turns out, the newbie elder had a study who saw us out at a club the previous Saturday. They guy had too much to drink and tried to get fresh with me. I didn't think about it at all, but I think he thought we would tell on him and he wanted to put us in a bad light first, and accused us of drinking too much. So I set the newbie elder straight. Then he started asking a bunch of questions about our personal activities. One was "I hear you guys go to Happy Hour a lot." I said, "define a lot." He said once or twice a week. I said "nope." He made a few more unsuccessful attempts to trick or catch us, for who knows why. My gf and I are managers and dealing with him was a piece of cake. We deal with cagier individuals every single day.
What an idiot. Of course, I heard he was removed as an elder years later and the PO had to apologize to the congregation for something he did.
The whole thing was not serious, but I learned an invaluable lesson. I would never be intimidated or bullied by elders, or forced to do something I was uncomfortable with, and I would be in control if there was ever a meeting.
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What would you tell someone who wants to become a JW?
by slimboyfat inwhat would be the most important things you think someone should be aware about jws if they are planning on getting baptised as a jw?
imagine you are on a plane and get talking to the person next to you.
you find out they are considering becoming a jw but they are not sure.
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Dagney
I would try to determine what their attraction is, and go from there. I would share my life as a JW, the good, and then depending on what they say, I would share the bad:
Shunning- if at any point, should they question ANYTHING, they would be marked, shunned.
Ever evolving blood issue - you could lose your life if a decision was made on a vague doctrine, which could be reversed at any time. Many lives lost for a doctrine that has been now modified.
Education - If they are educated, they would be expected to not provide higher education for their family or they become marked, or counseled.
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"Mama, Id Like to Introduce Myself" - A blog post by ex-JW Author
by cofty inex-jw bridget r. gaudette has posted an article in which she daydreams about the conversation she would love to have with her jw mother.. it is a brilliant and moving piece that also featured on the richard dawkins foundation website yesterday.. please make sure you click on the link at the end of the article for an excellent audio interview about her jc and subsequent treatment by her family.. .
hi mama, im bridget gaudette, your 34-year-old daughter.
we havent talked much the last dozen or so years.
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Dagney
I read this article and thought it was outstanding. Although the interest in anything JW is less than we like to believe, it's quality like this that will garner respect the exJW's, and negative feelings toward the printing company cult.
Well done Bridget.
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The watchtower is making some dangerous enemies
by 20yearfader inthis weekend i spent time with a friend that i haven't seen since high school,that would be 22 years.he grew up the same way i did being a born in.he and i both received our share of beatings related to the wt org coming to the hall without a song book not getting a comment low hours in field service etc....where we differ is the fact that his stepdad was beating him with his fist i got the belt or a stick.he would come to school with black eyes due to his infractions with the hall.after we left schoo we lost touch since he was still living at home an going to the meetings and i wasn't, kicked out at 17 so that ending my time with the org.he stayed at home until 21 still getting his fair share of beatings due to any sort of failing that had to do with the org.he left after one beating and joined the marines,he was dfed.while in the marines he told me he asked an got sniper training becoming a deadly shot,he also told me he always volunteered for the most dangerous missions.i can see that he was doing this to escape the pain of his upbringing even to his subconscious mind secrectly hoping to die on one of these missions.he tells me he has some sort of nerve disability that will progress until he cant walk,he has hearing loss due to a grenade going off by his head'he knows one day he will be in a wheelchair disabled it's only a matter of time.he hasn't spoke to his mother and his family in over 20 years they care nothing about him not even returning the calls he leaves on there answering machine,he told me he calls once a month for the past 20 years.sitting here at my house he says out of the clear blue you know i've thought a lot about going to brooklyn and with the skills i have i could do a lot of damage to those men that have ruined my life.i talked him out of it i think,i told him about this site where he could come to vent,because i think he needs to vent badly.i don't know what will happen to him when he is told his quality of life will get worse and if he will revisit the idea of lashing out at what he thinks has ruin his life,i don't know what he will do and even though i think i talked him out of doing anything,can i really say i blame him.i'm in the same boat my family is fractured broken all because of some men,men in brooklyn that hold more control over my family than i can,i wonder do thay ever think about the countless people that they affect with there shunning methods how many broken families they leave in there wake.i will say one thing there are many others out there that think the way my friend does i feel it's only a matter of time before karma comes a knocking..
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Dagney
Glad you were there for him. So sad. I hope he does come here to vent, he really needs to.
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Anyone can be saved
by StopTheTears ini prayed that 2 japanese men would come to church today, and thank god that 1 said yes so far.............so please pray he and his friend would come not only to church, but to jesus.
and i meet another non christian friend on monday, please pray for her salvation.. .
when asked which is the greatest commandment, jesus replied,.
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Dagney
I'm good thanks. I have love and happiness without any obedience or disobedience stuff, or fear. It's just love and happiness.
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Anyone can be saved
by StopTheTears ini prayed that 2 japanese men would come to church today, and thank god that 1 said yes so far.............so please pray he and his friend would come not only to church, but to jesus.
and i meet another non christian friend on monday, please pray for her salvation.. .
when asked which is the greatest commandment, jesus replied,.
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Dagney
Just wow.
it's not a choice out of love but a choice from fear. Thank goodness there is no such thing. Good grief.
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I have said it before
by mouthy inthis time i mean it.. thanks for all the ones that love me .
i am getting off the site after all these years.. anghard & simon .
but of late.
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Dagney
Take a break...let some time pass, but come back when you can. We really love you and need you.