i remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.
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i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?
I remember one of my peers in the congregation was assigned the talk on masterbation from the "Youth" book.
Remember that...they went chapter by chapter from that book for the ministry school!!!
We were all mortified!! We all felt so sorry for the bro.
I remember now at about 11 years old I had the talk "was the first sin sexual intercourse." I barely knew about that stuff!
Ai yi yi
i think someone else noticed this here recently.
i wondered when i signed on today july 9, 2024, that even the avatars were missing.
does simon know?
I noticed that also. I thought it was my computer.
have any of you here successfully woken up pimi family members or friends and got them out?.
if so, how did you manage to do that, what was the information that made them jolt up out of their hypnotism?.
I've always told my friends and family when asked that I didn't have issues with the congregation or elders or anyone, but I did have issues with the corporation. Some get exactly what that means and go no further. Those that wonder what I mean just tell them to google something, usually something specific. I don't send links to anything unless I know it's completely safe. The Candace Conti thing was very effective, especially once they got into the youtubes. The Australian Royal Commission was also very effective. There is so much out there now, if you can drop a hint like "man I never thought this would ever happen" about the cases in Montana/Pennsylvania, Norway. Dave Gracey's experience as an elder and the case with his daughter and the elders and Utah Supreme Court should be eye opening to anybody.
My goal was always to plant a seed, a quick thought of something they would not forget. It could be an inconsistency with one of their doctrines, or hypocrisy with giving "aid," just a thought with a bit of acting thrown in with my own "shock". Maybe when they hear it at the hall or wherever, they will remember what it was I had an issue with.
Good luck!
this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
(as I read through this thread it cracks me up it's all about a talking snake. A TALKING SNAKE!!!)
(Did Noah get those snakes on the boat so Moses could write about a talking snake, [a TALKING SNAKE!!], hundreds of years later?)
See, this is why even as a kid it sounded absolutely crazy to me.
Don't worry I'm leaving the room.
i am in western canada.
we use to have our assembly in saskatoon.
our assembly has moved to medicine hat.
I live in Long Beach. There are usually 12-13 conventions during the summer. English, Spanish and a vibrant Asian community is around here, so multiple groups would be meeting in various convention rooms.
I love to hear the attendance is soooo low. YAY!!!!
what warnings are the cult giving the "sheeple?".
in the study article on page 20 - "are you heeding the warnings?
", jw's are threatened what their fate will be if they don't support the elite, "anointed" jw's, the 33 degree aka, the self-appointed gibbering body - they will be toast very soon:.
One of the primary ways that sheeplike ones support Christ’s brothers is by assisting them in the preaching work.
That's a great laugh. You mean like the two guys I saw last week sitting by their literature carts on a stretch of sidewalk where nobody was walking?!
the watchtower—study edition | september 2024. enjoy the greater happiness that comes from giving.
9 though we are imperfect humans, we can imitate jehovah’s generous use of power.
we cannot literally impart strength, or energy, to others.
Through years and years of indoctrination of "them and us," JW's have a disconnect with humanity. I realized it when I left that even though I thought I was a "nice" person, I didn't really take any personal interest in others around me, neighbors, work mates etc. It was sobering and embarrassing to me. It was especially sobering when I had left JW, my elderly mom took ill and at times I was really frazzled trying to juggle everything, work, her hospitalization and everything that came after that. My neighbors, and workmates continually offered support, many offering prayers etc. I was humbled and often in tears with their acts of kindness. I didn't need another nail in the coffin, but this was one anyway.
The JW folks follow their master's example.
certainly amongst the best actors ever.
probably the best.
kelly's heroes and don't look now a couple of my favourites.
MASH, Ordinary People...
this is something i think about a lot, possibly because i'm just getting older.
it seems that not only should i finally one day decide what i want to do with my life, but i should also be planning for retirement.. hands up everyone who feels their future has been royally screwed by the wts experience?.
if you were a good jw and followed the wts advice you could well be finding yourself facing middle or even old age without much or anything put aside in retirement savings.
Hi Simon - I really enjoyed your post. I agree, you CAN start late...only I did about 13 years ago. Nothing exciting or creative, other than maxed out my 401K every year, and did invest with a crazy BK Wamu stock that is recovering years later in a nice additional nest egg. If I had only (famous last words) just consistently contributed to my 401K when we started it, I would have at least double what I have today. But I didn't see it, I didn't have the vision and nobody to blame but me.
I am still working full time, very close to pulling the plug in the next few months. I can't wait, but also nervous about not having a paycheck...I've never not worked. I am looking to find a retirement tax advisor and FP, to give me some expert advice. I follow a few groups, to gather intel and avoid costly mistakes. I would like to use some funds for some stock purchases, but I'm a buy and hold type gal, at least for the moment, just too busy with work to have something with timing issues. I do track my balances daily, which is easy as I do this for work so I do the same for my own at the same time.
One thing I always remember someone told me years ago, "it's not what you earn it's what you spend." Watching those subscription fees that sneak into your credit card, the coffees and eating out really adds up, especially now. I love eating out, but pretty much keep it to special times with friends and family. As you get a little older shop for special deals with internet/phone/TV/insurance even some tax breaks.
Oh I just thought of something. On the retirement planning FB page, someone wrote "run from a retirement advisor who tells you when you ask what their fees are 'if you don't make money I don't make money.'"
And son of a gun if one local guy tell me just that!
is investigating this group because the allegations are so pervasive!
jehovah's witnesses are being investigated in states such as illinois & pennsylvania.
i think that a federal investigation will come about soon.. there is so much negative news about the witnesses now that can't be hidden.
It has to do with transparency laws during a campaign once a candidate enters officially into an election.
