You should tell the brother you feel uncomfortable giving this talk and tell him why. Maybe some of your unconventional views may be straightened out.
agapa37
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Help! they're giving me a talk #4 entittled:" IDENTIFYING APOSTATES"
by dark angle inthis is quite awkward for me to give!
our elder gave me that assignment last week and should be delivered next week on the theocratic ministry school.
considering i have very unconventional views for the wts about blood, evolution, bible, and the gb, delivering this talk seemd quite maladroit.
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Have got myself in a bit of trouble
by Zico innot a big amount of trouble, only a little bit of trouble.
it's not like i'm going to be disfellowshipped or anything.
but would appreciate some information anyway!
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agapa37
I wouldn't worry to much about it. I can only go on what you told us, and from what i hear you were being brotherly. You know, you could ask the brother if he would have rathered someone else drive her home, like a rapist or murderer!
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to join or not
by dontknow ini've had in the past studied a little about the bible with jws but have yet decided to be baptised.. i've just read lavenders' moving letter to her son and her love and well being for him is very obvious.
i do like the bible teachings very much and to this day i'm very interested in the end of the system of things which will very soon come to fruition; i'm a very strong believer, however i must stipulate to all, in retrospect i'm not sinless.
one of the posters says that jw's ask you to do a liitle bible study with them, attend one of their meetings and when you get baptised you have to do exactly what you are instructed or else.
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agapa37
When you decide to give your life up to Jesus and serve Jehovah there are changes to come. The bible encourages us to PUT ON the NEW personality. It is a gradual undertaking. Do not expect perfection from yourself. Set goals or from anyone else. Hope things work out for you.
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JW Discussion Forum Poll
by zarco inas some of you know i am an active jw in search of the truth and i see many good and bad things in the organization i am interested in knowing the following from forum.
which of the following statements best describe your belief -.
1 - the wtbts is jehovahs channel and i believe what it teaches me (i had to ask:).
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agapa37
I too vote for number to. Not to sure I would label them apostate just yet.
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Was Anna Nichol Smith a symbol of the wrongs in society?
by free2beme ini just recently got back from maui, hawaii ... so if i am late to the party on this subject, sorry.
i just unplug from information, while on vacation.
although, while there we did hear that anna nichol smith died.
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agapa37
Yes I agree with your post. The wrongs of society. It is no wonder that the bible tells us not to be part of the world.
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Would Blondie or Mary ever make it as Elders in your old Congregation?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwe know the wts will never except woman as elders.in the last year as a member of jwd,i have learned more from blondie and mary than any elder in my congregation.all the elders in my congregation look like they go thru the motions.they are more like policy enforcers than teachers.. do you think that by excepting woman, some men would be embarassed to how little they know?
does the wts know some woman would better teachers?
is it more like a men's club?
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agapa37
I know many women who would make wonderful shepards. Even though women are not allowed to take the lead in the Congregation, they can be and are vauluable individuals within the Congregation.
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Do you belive you are anointed?
by unbaptized inif you believe you are anointed, please give the details on how you came to this conclusion.
this is not a judgemental post, so all those with negative comments please keep them to yourself.
this is a quest for facts and answers, nothing more.
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agapa37
Ok little toe, I see you don't want to go there. I truely belive you agree with me but will not admit it. At the same time, I do agree with what you said, which is that the:
WTS is distracted by the window dressing instead of focussing on the the true focal point of the NT, which is Christ.
I would love to chat with you but it seems that old habits are hard to break after leaving the JW's. I only can post 5 per day due to some paranoia. either I am being shunned for being a witness or I am being disciplined for speaking my mind like everyone else in here. Anyway, it was nice to chat with ya. I wouldn't be suprised if I was banned from here for making this comment, only time will tell.
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Do you belive you are anointed?
by unbaptized inif you believe you are anointed, please give the details on how you came to this conclusion.
this is not a judgemental post, so all those with negative comments please keep them to yourself.
this is a quest for facts and answers, nothing more.
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agapa37
Little toe, I appreciate your answer and understand where you are coming from. I was pleasantly suprised that you didn't take offence to my comment. But my friend, you said: "It is for this very reason that I think the, "living forever in perfect health on a paradise earth" doctrine is rank materialism that detracts from the whole message of the bible."
Have you forgotten over the years that this "living forever in perfect health on a paradise earth" is Gods ORIGINAL purpose for mankind? Have you forgotten that not a word from His mouth goes unfulfilled? His purpose for mankind will be realized, He promised it and will see to it. The whole message of the bible is Jesus bringing man back to their original state. The first book of the bible puts man in perfect conditions here on earth, the books inbetween record our fall, and the last book of the bible puts us right back on earth in perfect conditions.
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Do you belive you are anointed?
by unbaptized inif you believe you are anointed, please give the details on how you came to this conclusion.
this is not a judgemental post, so all those with negative comments please keep them to yourself.
this is a quest for facts and answers, nothing more.
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agapa37
He also told the thief on the cross that he would be in paradise with him. So is Jesus to be in heaven or on earth, or was it a moot point since the point of it appears to have been about personal fellowship (" where are you going to, Lord?" )?
Little toe, as an ex Elder you know the answer to that question. For once in your lif can't you just admit someone else made a valid point and humble yourself by admitting you spoke without really thinking. Remember brother, Jehovahs loves humble people and brings down the haughty.
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Do you belive you are anointed?
by unbaptized inif you believe you are anointed, please give the details on how you came to this conclusion.
this is not a judgemental post, so all those with negative comments please keep them to yourself.
this is a quest for facts and answers, nothing more.
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agapa37
Throwing a location, like heaven verses earth, into the equation only muddies the waters.
I wonder what Jesus would say to such a response? When he spoke about his disciples ruling with him in the Kingdom, he mentioned alot about the location being in Heaven. Was he "mudd'n the waters?"