recently a public speaker noted that the earth and humans are insignificant in comparison to the universe with its millions of galaxies and billions of stars.
my question to bible literalist's is... why did god confine satan and his demons to the vicinity of the earth with so many other uninhabited options?.
why not restrict them to uranus with a bunch of meat puppets to beat up?.
Runningman: one of the few who were awake during an assembly. Taking notes also?
One of the questions that I would have with any of the religions. If the universe is so big, than why would a god care about this spot in the universe. If you look at all of the grains of sand on the earth it would even take a god a little time to find the one that held his chosen people.
i have never been a religious person, despite being raised as a witness and going through the motions.
now that i'm out, i'm not a religious person at all.
i don't believe in god, i think there is some sort of higher power, but i'm just not that concerned with learning anything about it.
I question a lot of the bible, the method that it was put together, and all of the characters. I think that if you read into it enough you can get some good points out of it. If that is what you are looking for. I do not know if there is a higher order, but looking out for other humans feelings makes me feel better than living by ?bible standards? (?).
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has anyone heard (or seen) any comments from witnesses about the december 15, 2003 watchtower that seems to be to be pointing to 2034 as possible date for the end of this system of things?
don
Yes, I heard people mention 2034 during the meeting. Kind of scary that people would fall into the trap so fast and easily. Of course, this can?t be good news to all of the older sisters who have lost husbands and children to this wicked system of things and are waiting for the new system to laugh in their faces.
The 607 BC date has been mentioned a few times, in past topics, and could be recapped by SCHOLAR if you want to listen to the party line (JW). I think that he has proof of that date that he will not share with us.
if you are an elder, there's lots of ways you can make life easier for yourself.
while still keeping your position.
old timers know these tricks but usually are too.
or were you considered "weak"?
No, but my wife is. One of those spiritually single parents who is successfully bringing up children without any help. Or at least no spiritual help. Let?s see, she doesn?t have to work so that means her time in the filed ministry can be increased and we live a little better than the rest of the congregation, so she can give a little more. So, she is a fine example.
the other day when the overseer was over, he started talking about how good the cong was and how it was the best as far as publishers.
he mentioned that we only had 0 irregular, and 0 inactive publishers.
this is bs.
The big CO visit, what a crock. If this is not an organization made up of men, then why does everybody get giddy when a man shows up for a week? Meeting attendance is up. Everybody goes out in service, and time slots with the CO are given out like a lottery (Some people have even been happy that they won more than one slot in a visit). Elders show up at my door that barely even look at me during a meeting, to see if I have any problems. He gives special talks? Give me a break. They could not and are not any better than the talks that we usually have droned into our head, but we sure are glad that he gave us this great talk.
Once he is gone and the dust has settled, Elder Betterthanthow will go back to his dysfunctional family and not talk to the spiritually weak. Time will go unreported, and so on. Sure am glad that we are not run by a man?s organization
i remember years ago when my mom and i would travel great distances to the week long conventions.
we always had to travel with another sister whos husband was also "unbelieving".
anyway, her daughter and i would put the watchtower and awake mags in the back window to show everyone who we were.
my g/f today asked me if i wanted to go to ny and tour bethel and wahkill (sp?
) and all the other buildings today.
should i go, or should we just save our money?
well, looks like they do have a new date for the conclusion of the end, and that we should "be prepared".
even some people that commented said that 90 years of the 120 years have passed by and we should be prepared for the time at hand.
2034 people, 2034.... i've had enough, i'm talkign to the elder about this one, i don't care if i get labelled or not.
when i used to go the meetings in the late 80's, the mood was good, knowing that the end was close.
later on in the 90's while i still attended once in a while, people were starting to be less zealous and were starting to put their needs before those of the kingdoms.
people started to buy houses, instead of living in apartements, they were buying nicer cars, taking vacations far away, and mostly, the women started to work, to help pay for the better life style they were living.
there are a few different classes of people who go. there are the ones that go due to family members being in. they are the ones that are robotic, can't wait to leave. there are the new converts and the elderly that can't wait for the end to come. But, there is a class that just likes the fellowshipping, and this is a better place to meet that the pshyciatric ward.