Posts by OnTheWayOut

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WT Mtg "read scriptures" are only to be read by a 1 brother???

by Olivia Wilde in

we had co visit recently & it appears that the co told the elders of the congregation that the scriptures indicated on the wt to be "read" on the watchtower study are only to be read by 1 brother in the entire study.... the elder conducting the watchtower announced that at the wt mtg... i was like what???

only men?....

has anyone else had this occur in their congregation?

OnTheWayOut

I , an old geezer, find the the practise of having different people read very distracting, degrading to the comprehension of the material, how can you analyse and tear it apart, if the thing is not clear.

I mean no disrespect, but I laughed and laughed at that comment. You are not supposed to analyze and tear it apart. I know you try to do that, but they don't care for you to, anyway.

Thanks. I know why people wonder about such practices, but really- do you want to have children reading and getting all proud of their participation? Let the guy read it.

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Special Pioneer Couple Living at a Kingdom Hall In Miami FL, get the dreaded Letter

by James Jack in

just got a phone call from an older sister saying that a couple that got re-assigned from bethel 4 years ago to live at their kh apartment as special pioneers, just received a letter saying "as of january 2016, your special pioneer assignment will be discontinued".. they live in a south miami kh(snapper creek congregation).. this couple had only served in bethel for 15 years before they were sent out into the special pioneer work.

they are now in their mid 50's and the sister said that they have to find part time jobs to support themselves.. the older sister (does not have a pc or internet), says that the couple are just devastated!

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OnTheWayOut

Here's why I originally started commenting on this forum. I thought (back in 2005-6) that it was especially sad that Watchtower would take the best years of young adults' lives and then toss them aside when they lay off Bethelites. It doesn't matter that it's Bethelites or Special Pioneers- Watchtower acts like it's such a high privilege with great rewards to be part of their "family" and it's just good business when they want to get rid of paying them.

These people sacrifice everything for a promised paradise around the next corner, being told they will never grow old (okay, say being misled to believe such) and short of reaching paradise quickly, they expect Watchtower to keep them on as poverty-wage minions for the things they have done.

I am imaging the worst one- the double stab in the back. A Bethelite couple laid off in 2005 after a couple decades told that they can remain Special Pioneers in some jerkwater rural area for the rest of their lives, and now that's been taken away. They joined the "family" young and have no current chance at receiving Social Security because they aren't even in their 60's yet, just their 50's, and there isn't much there anyway when they do reach their retirement age. They have actually worked their asses off for Watchtower but live off the generosity of some congregation and whatever parttime work they scrapped by with.

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Where are you from?

by BeautifulMind in

jw
friends

i know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.

but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.

i currently live in georgia, usa.

OnTheWayOut

I am either from a region of the United States shown below:

or I am from the Greek Island of Lesbos.

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So this Cute Chick at the KH ...

by brandnew in

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friends

thought she was gonna take a pic of me on the sneak.

im df'd...been df'd for over 19 years already.

so she probably would have gotten away with it without anyone knowing.....except that her flash was on.

OnTheWayOut

I cant speak to anybody, but really wanted to tell her it was ok.

Wrong, just so you know, You are free to speak to anybody. They are supposed to shun you.

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What more do they need to see?

by stuckinarut2 in

so bethelites are being decreased...bethel homes even sold off.... special pioneers no longer being funded.. magazines getting smaller and published less frequently.. building work stopping or being reduced.. no large conventions and renting of venues.. etc.... so, money is not coming in anymore to cover the "expenses"??.

didnt the first ever watchtower said that when this occurs, it would be evidence of god no longer blessing the activity....

oh, and throughout the years, we have constantly been told that the "growth of the org and the projects such as buildings and contributions" etc were evidence of gods blessing.... .

OnTheWayOut

There's always a way to spin it. How about this?---

Jehovah's organization is faithful, but so many members are not as spiritual as they should be and are not seeking the kingdom first, yet Jehovah's organization is doing awesome with the reduced amount these members are contributing.

That and Satan is really putting the pressure on now, so he knows how the end is so so so so imminent. Just hang on a few more years at the most and don't let these things discourage you. That's what Satan wants.

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Lets start a "Go Fund Me" for those special pioneers being kicked to the curb by the GB,.

by notjustyet in

lots of great potential to help those sp that are being sent off without any financial help from the wtbts.

i think that it would be a great way to get some exposure on this topic and how the wtbts thats those that dedicated their lives to the wtbts only to be sent packing at a late age.

then someone can take the funds to one sp couple, possibly, and give it to them in honor of the apostates that know what is really happening.

OnTheWayOut

What you say?

Go get a job and fake your pioneer hours. That's what I say.

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now we know why the org bought those luxury apartments for 57 million

by nowwhat? in

it's for all the laid off bethelites!

see jehovah provides!

OnTheWayOut

They will house the elderly Bethelites and "retired" C.O./D.O's and many others who, upon retirement and getting sicker in their senior years, donate their life-savings to Watchtower in their will.

At those apartments, they will sing "Kumbaya" and Kingdom Melodies every day as they set up their literature carts at the sidewalk (for really nobody walking by) so they can each get their 15-minutes in.

Some younger elder will pick them up in a bus to take them to the Kingdom Hall on Thursday and Sunday, probably having a special midweek meeting at 2 pm just for them so the bus can take them right to Old Country Buffet and get them home by 5:30 pm in time for Wheel of Fortune.

It will be mandatory to never let unbaptized or disfellowshipped relatives stay overnight for any reason whatsoever, if they visit.

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Disfellowshipped at a funeral

by Yogapants in

recently at a funeral for an active jw, death was sudden and tragic.

was surprised that that one of the disfellowshipped children of the deceased was comforted by the jw's at the funeral.

i would say the majority hugged and said a few short words to the disfellowshipped child on the recieving line to comfort the family.

OnTheWayOut

Shunning is supposed to happen there also, but because WTS often declares that they don't demand it but that members choose to shun (not true, BTW) and because humans often let their true feelings show at a funeral even when they are supposed to obey cult leaders, Jehovah's Witnesses often refrain from any serious conversations but give a brief mention of condolences and a hug.

Elders often give in too, and (as far as other JW's) would really have to be total A-holes to try to insist that members would shun at such a time and place- but some do.

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Hello everyone! I am new here and want to tell you about myself - my bio

by Hollywood20 in

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friends

grew up in east la in a bad neighborhood to a black mother and white father.

i never knew my father because he died in a car accident when i was a few weeks old.

my mother converted as a jw soon after when two sisters came to her door and offered her comfort, which was something she needed.

OnTheWayOut

Wow, I feel for you. My experience is kind of opposite to yours. I was at rock bottom when I became a JW as an adult (but had childhood exposure and a JW mother).

I can say this. JW'S interfered in my getting the help I needed at a critical time. They sidetracked that for 2 decades. That's what they did to you. Your opportunity was there and they took it away.

You will have to recover and move on. You may still need professional counseling over the molestation issue as it seems you never dealt with that. As far as the career goes, you can get back in the game somehow, probably with much more difficulty. But you should at least consider that.

Thanks for sharing your story. I look forward to hearing more from you.

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Recent study links processed meats to cancer

by duc007az in

so a recent study says processed meats are just as dangerous as cigarettes when it comes to cancer.

the wtbs has had a long time stance that smoking is a df offense.

my question is if there's proof beyond doubt, why doesn't the wtbs make eating processed meats a df offense?.

OnTheWayOut

If you stop eating processed meats you will still die.

If you are concerned, eat less processed meats.