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  Elder Told A JW To Ignore Governing Body Advice

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. beliefs

  i had an interesting conversation with a fellow ex-jw yesterday.

  for the sake of this post lets call her "katie".

  katie is a former pioneer who suddenly stopped attending meetings and managed to be left alone by the elders.

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  Wow, and I thought I was really "out there" as an elder telling people that they just do not need to tell the elders everything they do.
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  2017 Convention Releases

  by Edison Trent in

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  2. beliefs

  on http://avoidjw.org/2017-regional-convention/ you can find the talk outlines of the regional convention this year.. i looked into the final talks each day and found these releases to be announced:.

  on saturday:.

  new magazine-size book entitled "lessons you can learn from the bible".

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  I hope REMEMBER THE WIFE OF LOT is a comedy. They could cover the offer to give the daughters to the men to rape and the daughters could say "AGAIN???"

  As far as books for children, they have pretty much given up recruiting adults so they need to stay current with new exciting stuff....or at least new.
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  Birthday Party

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. friends

  i have posted less and less personal threads because less and less jw-related activity has happened in my life.

  my jw mother called me on friday and asked me if i could do something on saturday.

  i was sure my wife would ask me if anyone asked about her, and what i said.

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  fastJehu, thanks for the thumbs up.
  
  sparky1, no dancing girls. That's probably why no beheadings.

  longgone, good story to add, thanks.

  LV101, at least my mother didn't want to shun me for going. It's not all that bad.

  My Name is of No Consequence, the real reason they cannot say is that not celebrating birthdays makes a Witness avoid non-JW family gatherings and makes the children have to avoid "worldly" children from school when they have parties. Anniversaries are ideally to be between two JW's, and maybe Governing Body members' wives said "You AIN'T taking away anniversaries just to get out of buying me a present." Or......

  tepidpoultry, .....Or...... it's like tepidpoultry said. LOL!

  EverApostate, wow. Thanks for the compliment. I find it hard to accept what I once believed also.
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  Birthday Party

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have posted less and less personal threads because less and less jw-related activity has happened in my life.

  my jw mother called me on friday and asked me if i could do something on saturday.

  i was sure my wife would ask me if anyone asked about her, and what i said.

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  I have posted less and less personal threads because less and less JW-related activity has happened in my life. But every now and then, something does happen.

  So my sister on my dad's side scheduled a birthday party for her 1 year old this past Saturday. ( Nobody on that side is a JW.)

  My JW mother called me on Friday and asked me if I could do something on Saturday. I mentioned the birthday party for my 1 year old niece and said I wasn't free. My mother's first response was " Your wife is going to a birthday party!?" I told her no, that just I was going but went further to say " If my wife went, it would be to see family. What would be wrong with that?" She didn't answer.

  At the birthday party, I was asked about my wife. I said how her religion doesn't allow her to attend birthday parties. I was sure my wife would ask me if anyone asked about her, and what I said. It's just something she would always do. I was going to tell her the truth and mention what I said. Maybe her JW senses kicked in, because she never asked- very much atypical for her.

  So no discussion of the party was had. By the way, no one was beheaded at the party.
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  what is the craziest book the dubbers ever published?

  by dogon in

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  2. beliefs

  so i was wondering what book is the nuttiest they ever printed?

  i know there are several in contention for first place but which is your vote for no 1?

  also if you don't mind post a bit of what is in the book you pick to show why you picked it.

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  The Silver New World Translation of The Holy Scriptures.
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  Do you find it therapeutic coming to this site?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i read on another thread how this site has helped another user and that for them it has been a form of therapy.. for me yes, jwn has most certainly been a form of therapy.. i recall the days i first came to jwn (in 2004) and couldn't​ believe i had found people who were of the same opinion as myself in regards to the society.

  it was this site that led me to reading ray franz's book 'crisis of conscience' which i read twice within a week.

  it also led me to jw facts that goes into every nook and cranny regarding the society's​ teachings, policies and history.. note: i also visit many other sites and watch you tube videos a lot, but gravitate here most of the time.. coming here to express my inner most thoughts and feelings has helped me no end and allows me to overcome my frustrations.

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  I used to need to come here every day. I still do sometimes. This forum was definitely an important part of my therapy- discussing like problems with like-minded people that I don't need to explain JW things to.
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  The REAL reason I no longer want to be a witness!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  Your pie chart is right. But the rumor mill at the Kingdom Hall is that everyone left for all those other reasons. Can't be a problem with the truth.

  Other great pie charts:
  
  
  
  
  
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  We're going to impeach Trump . . . and make Mexico pay for it!

  by Coded Logic in

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  2. current

  i have little doubt articles of impeachment will be drawn up on trump within the next year or so.

  my only question at this point is what are they going to get him for?.

  collusion with a foreign government to subvert an election?.

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  We're going to impeach Trump . . . and make Mexico pay for it!

  I saw that meme on FB and loved it. I bet Canada would pitch in, too.
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  RUMOUR - Regarding future memorials

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard this on the youtube channel - bad jw round table discussions and i normally don't give much thought to rumours, i did find this one interesting.one of the guys on the channel said that there are plans that 'the other sheep' will be told not to attend any future memorials.he was asked how credible was this and he said that it is talk going around by those in the know, just like there had been those that knew about the fairly recent new edition of the bible being in production.even if this is probably just a rumour, the idea has a lot of merit.

  the benefits for the organization outweigh the negatives and would fit in with their current direction.here are some of the benefits, for the org.

  that could come from it- the biggest benefit would come from not having to accommodate so many attendants, which are more than double a normal meeting.

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  I try I try I try to guess what they might do. They love control-based activity like field-recruiting and 5 meetings a week. But one thing that overrides control is money. They ditched the book study quite easily.

  So, the cost of the Memorial is all on the local congregations. All that figuring out how to fit so many people into one Kingdom Hall or rented facility on the same night is not their problem......unless.....they plan to cram even more people into less Kingdom Halls.

  So, here's my wild speculations on how and why this could be true. Emphasis on "wild."
  
  1. They are actually calculating a loss of money on all those invitations. Sure, more inactive and family of JW's come to the Memorial than any other meeting. Sure, the JW's drag their "Bible studies" to the event. But do they stuff the donation box???

  2. They have too many fake anointed and will stop counting. They will have regional Memorials where only the elders will know about it and will be instructed to only tell JW's in good standing who claim to be of the anointed where they are held. I mean- a genuine "anointed" must be a JW in good standing, right??? They can easily make a Watchtower magazine study for everyone else that week. This way, no need for cramming any extra meetings into a single hall on a single night.

  3. It could become a special live internet thing where elders are instructed to help the old ancient elderly "anointed" ones to see it and have some wine and crackers. Others are welcome to watch at home and remember to put money in the box next Sunday.

  I don't really believe this would happen. They currently still say the Memorial is "the most sacred event." But hey, I really believed Donald Trump would never win his election.
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  Update on U.S. Local Design/Construction Arrangement—May 2017

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  https://photos.google.com/share/af1qipoujulgkxn02fa9s1iu-tzraj_4lwdepjgaur7crfbnqze5eccnvo8ki6jbnp-6sa?key=ajfvcy1vnfdra2dhzgdrwgtbekjmb04zrhlzwwf3.

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  They are underpaid stipend-receivers whose job probably actually focuses on telling congregations that they will not be renovating and getting locals to scrub and do minor repairs on their own. They probably do more recommending of which halls to close and which ones to move people into.

  The biggest part of the job is enjoying having people kiss their asses and think so highly of them, making sure they tell people that so much is going on "somewhere else." I imagine most were well-connected Bethelites who managed not to be canned.