Posts by dungbeetle

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Can you believe this Kingdom Hall? NOT

by Mindchild in

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can you believe this kingdom hall?

it's weird but this thought came to me sometime way too early in the morning to make any sense then, and that was this discussion board is really a virtual model of the kingdom hall that we all wanted to see in real time but never will.. here, we have anyone get up on the stage regardless of sex, experience or rank, and they make their presentation.

it can be about, and almost always is, nearly any topic.

dungbeetle

>"Thus to expect the participants here to play nice as Simon often says is kinda wishful thinking. "<

I respectfully disagree. Look at the number of registered users here on Simon's board. (almost 4000) Now count the number of 'outspoken, disagreeing' posters (20 or less..?)...only a very tiny comparative handful, and then the same ones over and over and over again.

This discussion board amazes me. Jehovah's Witnesses, ex-Jehovah's Witnesses, non-jehovah's Witnesses; men and women (and 'others') straights adn gays (and 'others') old ones, young ones, new ones, expereinced ones---------we get along on this board.

This is a part of the world that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society DOES NOT WANT THE WORLD TO SEE.

great thread, mindchild.

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New to board, from Minnesota..here's my story.

by radiolady in

for those of you who have read this in someone elses thread, i apologize.

it was suggested i start my own thread so here is my story again for anyone who may have missed it.

i am currently from minnesota and live in st. paul (roseville), but the congregation that i went to was in the apple valley area.

dungbeetle

Hi radiolady, welcome to the board. I beleive someone on the main forum was just asking for women's perspective in the JW org, and your experience will be very helpful to him.

Thanks for sharing--hope to see more of your posts.

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1934 German letter

by oscartheduck in

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i've been looking at this letter for some time.. and researching it's origins.. i can't find anything conclusive, really.

i can't locate a denial of its existance from the society, but i haven't got access to any literature anymore, having left it all behind when i moved country to america from england.

so...is there any reference to it in, for example, the proclaimers book?.

dungbeetle

One has to ask, WHY a researcher has so much trouble finging this letter or info about it, from Watchtower sources?

WHY isn't the Declaration of Facts quoted in 1974 yearbook and 1993 Proclaimer's book? Only cited?

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm

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1934 German letter

by oscartheduck in

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i've been looking at this letter for some time.. and researching it's origins.. i can't find anything conclusive, really.

i can't locate a denial of its existance from the society, but i haven't got access to any literature anymore, having left it all behind when i moved country to america from england.

so...is there any reference to it in, for example, the proclaimers book?.

dungbeetle

Just to give you an idea:

* http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1497851418

WATCHTOWER 1935 YEARBOOK JEHOVAHS WITNESSES
Item # 1497851418

final price: $27.00
First bid $12.50
Quantity 1 # of bids 8
Auction has ended.

Started Dec-17-01 18:01:43 PST

Ends Dec-22-01 18:01:43 PST

there were two of these, missed them both. This working for a living thing really interferes with my anti-cult life....

Here's another from Randy's site:

Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses: 1934 - $125 (sold)

Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses: 1935 - $85 (sold)

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The possibility of reform?

by Norm in

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a quite interesting article on the possibility of reforming ones religion was printed in the february 1.

1995 issue of the watchtower, which asked the following question: .

"your religiona ship that should never be abandoned?.

dungbeetle

You gotta love it, Norm:

"We are staying loyal to Jehovah's Organization"

How do you know it's Jehovah's Organization?

"We're staying loyal to it, so it must be Jehovah's Organization"

So I told two friends, and they told two friends, and so on...and so on...

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AMAZING - Exposing Elders (re: Expose Ave...

by AMNESIAN in

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replying to:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=17880&site=3.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=17923&site=3.

dungbeetle

ROTFLMAO

GO AMSESIAN----GO GO GO !!!!!!!

>"Just a minor point...a good friend of mine once told me that the congregation he used to serve in always found out confidential information...from the Presiding Overseers wife.<"

info gotten from the Presiding Overseer in the first place, right? May I humbly remind the board that the famous Body of Elders letter regarding confidentiality was addressed to THE BODIES OF ELDERS---not to the elders' wives. Yes indeedy, get to the SOURCE of the problem.

I think I'll stay up all night, keep checking in here so I don't miss anything. But then I have to work tomorrow---

Oh hey, I'll just call in sick at work and stay home all day and keep checking in here, I don't want to miss anything. But then I couldn't pay my rent and then I'd be homeless (in winter)---

Oh hey, I'll move into my car, stay at the library computers all day and keep checking in here, I don't want to miss anything.

I used to have a life---then I joined the ex-jw's...

HAPPY HOLIDAYS, kiddies, and don't do anything I wouldn't take a picture of!!!!!

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Elder Talk Part 1 - Remembering

by Lee Elder in

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lets talk about the elders, circuit overseers and district overseers youve dealt with.

the good, the bad, the ugly, the stupid, etc.

just go ahead and unload both barrels; reload if you want to.. then in a future thread we can discuss how to drain the energy from these memories so that you remember without reliving.

dungbeetle

probably the best thing said in this whole 'elders' multi-thread discussion is what Lee Elder said >"I wish there was more serious, quality discussion like this."<

Definitely the 'discussing' part is far more important than the opinions.

((((( Lee Elder ))))))))

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YK & Friday Totally Out Of Touch With Reality

by Englishman in

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i've just had a few beers with my old mate ray, the non-jw husband of sausage lucy.. poor guy, he's never been remotely interested in jw's, he thinks that they are a bunch of losers.

unfortunately for ray, he met lucy when she was a frisky ex-dub, but now that she has seen the light, ray had better conform or else!.

poor ray has just been kicked out of his house for the umpteenth time, lucy is now getting to be regarded as a "domestic" by the somerset police.. ray's crime?

dungbeetle

I wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Fredhall finally told ME to 'eat shit and die' very unusual for him to behave that way towards me; it just goes to show how upset he might be right now.

They guys defended the JW's when almost no one else was able to do so (including their former staunch ally, the UN) and look what the JW's have done.

Betrayed their supporters with the Un affiliation,

raping, beating and murdering their own at a rate unprcedented in their 120+ year history;

the pedophile scandal,

the Bethel / WTC scandal (looking the other way while 15,000 people crossed the bridge in front of them and bragging about giving them scriptures instead of water and blankets)

the women and rape resistance scandal...and the year isn't over yet EVEN!!!!

These and others like them are beyond defending the watchtower any more....it looks more and more to me that they're just trying to defend themselves and this incredible JW-defending history they've been engaging in.

I feel the most sympathy for You Know, because of an experience he posted a while back regarding the blood issue. Next I feel sorry for Fredhall. In both cases they've seen the JW belief system credibility go up in smoke before their very eyes. It's not like we didn't warn them.

Yardfart I don't feel sorry for at all.

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new guy

by outonalimb in

as a new guy, i would like to tell you a little about myself.

i joined.

after lurking for several weeks.

dungbeetle

((((((((( outonalimb ))))))))

welcome to the board. Tho most here are ex-jw's, we have lots of JW's, non-jw's, and an ex mormon or two also. good to have you on board!!!

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Greek heroes & the nephalim

by Simon in

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can anyone remember this being in print or hearing the same thing .... i remember more than one talk where the suggestion was made that the larger-than-life greek heroes were the same nephalim or "mighty ones of old" mentioned in the bible.. does anyone else remember this?

dungbeetle

>"(This issue has been discussed somewhere on the forum and it was VERY interesting... not enough caffeine in my system yet to go look for it tho..)"<

* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=16678&site=3

I may be guilty there of derailing a thread mine own self..(My apologies)

* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=12740&site=3#154096

some more nephilim stuff--a subject very near and dear to Aguest's heart apparently!!!

May you all have---<whack!>

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