99% of all jw's believe and are taught that to survive armageddon that you must be a jw or as a minimum be.
associated with the jw's.
however the april 1 "public" issue of the watchtower has some interesting wording.
Yes the WT society are loopy ! Of course they have revolutionary ideas every now and again - they sit (12 of them BTW) around talking utter nonsense and once published it becomes "inspired truth". All these revolutionary ideas remind me of Jesus words " Let them be. Blind guides is what they are if a Blind man leads another blind man both will fall into a pit.".
Hee Hee.
the same guy that spoke to my mum on the doors yesterday was talking about them in the same catergory , aswell as saying that there are alot of 13 to 15 year old girls hanging around the local night club looking for a one night stands (she should of asked him how he knew about this , is that because he is there ?
) his point was is a man of 25 that picks up a 15 year old plastered in makeup at a nightclub a paedophile ?
which was totally irrelevant to the point she was making about the local ex min servant that had abused his daughters friends in the cong even though he was good friends with thier parents and had known the girls since birth , so did know they were underage .
This is a very interesting question.
There is to my knowledge only one scripture relating to SCUM - in the Hebrew scriptures ( I'm sorry I do not know its location) " You must not bring a dog into the house of the LORD " ( this was with the command not to bring a harlot ) But the view of the bible is not really given - but Jesus words " let the children come to me " surely indicates that anyone who harms one will surely feel the wrath.
Although - there are commands in scripture ( find them through answeringchristianity.com) where the Israelites were told to take for themselves every girl child under three in the villages they had invaded leaving no others alive because according to Rabbi commentators " they were suitable for sexual relations.".
JWs spit hatred about Homosexuals and Lesbians - but are very sympathetic towards Paedos - " who are you to judge them ?" I was asked by a now JW former Paedo hater. Big change. But one persons view means little. I do know of a former Congregation where a brother asked not to be left alone with children - but if he had Homosexual tendencies - how would he be viewed then ? Les sympathetic I bet.
They seem to be just sinners like everyone else. Maybe it's the Bibles fault for not being clear enough. Anytakers ???????
at john 3:16 god says he loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believed in him will have everlasting life.
yet in revelation satan and the demons were kicked out of heaven and hurled to the earth.
how is that loving, what could possibly be the reason he would do that if he really loved us.
Well, Jesus did say that not one sparrow falls without your fathers knowledge. I did laugh however at a scene from TV series Family Guy little Stewie (a one year old child hell bent on world domination) was reading through the Bible and couldn't put it down he said (reading from the scriptures) " If you don't do what I say you shall burn forever in hell. I'm really starting to love God. He's so deliciously evil ! "
Of course I couldn't possible speak like that but it was hilariously funny !
i can't remember if it was discussed here, but michael porter, a witness in good standing in london, england, pled guilty to being a pedophile and was originally given a conditional sentence which outraged many.. anyway, his leniant sentence was just overturned, and it looks like he better not drop the soap in the communial shower for the next 18 months: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7094591.stm.
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Hee Hee ! I hope that knocks the smile off that Satanists face ! Still I'm sure the congregation will stick by him - sigh.
The NWT has been severely tampered with to comply with the " revealed truths "
A few examples to show are Changes to the probable immortality of the soul :
KJV " according to the will of God, commit eh keeping of their souls to him" & the ORIGINAL " commit the keeping fo their souls " vs the NWT conveniently saying " keep on commending their souls . ". Ecclesiatstes 12:7 (or 11:7 can't read my own handwriting!) " the Spirit returns to God [ at Death]" is altered to in the NWT " the spirit itself returns". BIG changes I'm sure you will agree.
HEBREWS 1:6-8 reference to the son ORIGINAL " 6 > all the angels of God worship him " & 8 " The throne of you O God " & the KJB " 6> let all the angels of God worship him " & 8 " Thy throne O God " vs the NWT " 6> bow down, do Obeisence" & 8 " God is your throne forever.". Again a substantial difference. Matthew 2:11 " bowed down and worshipped him "[ sheppards Jesus Birth] changed to " Did obeisance to him."
Jesus relation to Jehovah is also interesting check in various Bibles ( try 4 translations for a rounder view) John 1:1 " The word was God" changed in the NWT to " The word was a God ". Also Acts 10:36 changed from " The Lord of all" to in the NWT " the lord of all other ". John 14:14 changed significantly.Revelation 1L:8, Rev 22:13-20 and Isaiah 9:6. Matthew 5:19 is also significant as is Matthew 25:46, Luke 12:9, the list is huge. PLUS, Exodus 3:4 [ God to Moses on the Mountain] " I AM WHO I AM" changed to " I SHALL PROVE TO BE " to blur simularity with Jesus words " I am "(John 8:58) changed in the wonderful NWT to " I have been" [ relation to the age of Jesus in Abrahams time]
One worthy of Note is Luke 23:43 " Today you will be with me " changed to in the NWT" I tell you today, you with be with me." [ Robber at Crucifixtion]
In Genesis 1:2 the " Spirit of God " has been changed in the NWT to " God's active force".
The ministry is also a huge significance. John 1:12 Believe changed to exercises faith (ministry significance) John 3:16,Roman 4:4 10:4,9,10. The witnesses in Revelation 6:9 slain because of " the message the were receiving "NCV " The testimony that they held " KJV "the testimony which they were keeping " ORIGINAL is conveniently changed to " The Witness work they used to have " NWT - Significantly different! Also Romans 10:10 " with the heart one believes resulting in righteousness & witht eh hearth one confesses resulting in salvation " ORIGINAL & " confession is made unto salvation" JKJV changed conveniently once again to " one makes public declaration for salvation " NWT. Sell them Watchtowers!!
Let us not forget that the JW bible NWT contradicts itself Hosea 13:4 " I am Jehovah - there was no saviour but I " and Isaiah 43:11 " I am Jehovah and beside me there is no savior " NWT yet Act 4:10-12 " That is the name of Jesus Christ there is no salvation in anyone else " and Romans 10:13 " everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah " NWT quotes bear in mind Kurio means Lord! Also check John 5:22
The Scolar William Barclay states that the NWT is " intellectually dishonest.". YOU CANNOT DISAGREE.
The Bible states that if anyone adds to the word of God or takes anything away, they will be condemned. Shay I translate Shakespere from the originals or into French/German and fiddle with the words, subtleties are so easily lost in a words meaning, as we have seen. The NWT is a bag of *&& %*&^$£*&$ period. John 17:3 " This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you the One true God and of the one you sent forth Jesus Christ.".
Let's not fiddle with that message.................
It's difficult to comment on a program I haven't seen so I will try not to go there, but every culture as the Jws bang their drum, has a legend about a giant flood that nearly wiped out humankind - and were it not true, then many cultures would have legends about volcanic activity or elsewise instead which is a valid point. Plus, the lack of human genetic variability shows that we were almost wiped out as a race - as also was the Cheetah (which Scientists say was down to one pair ! )but no mention is made by scientists that this happened to all species, which you would expect - unless they are afraid to invigorate the Christian Community who have made things very difficult for the Dinosaur (unfossilized remains) findings making Scientists unwilling to tell the full story - but then, why shouldn't they jump up and down when something supports their beliefs.
But, the story gets more interesting - the south Americans at the time knew that a catastrophic flood was imminent and buried artifacts - which to me seems a slight descrepancy with the Bible account. One thing is likely - maybe the Bible account of Genesis is not entirelty based on facts itself ? The Egyptian pyramids are built to the almost exact circumference of the Earth (out by about 5 yards or something) and are placed in the exact postition where one of the main constelations would have been 28,000 years ago - man does not acquire such genius to construct these things over night - society needs to evolve to this level of greatness - and Incan structure, alledged Chinese Pyramids share a startling simularity - surely leading us to conclude that they all are remnants, migrants of an older civilization, more advanced ? But then, that could all be Satan trying to mislead us.
How open minded are we really ?
my dad put up with a lot of crap from the jw's when my mom divorced him and took us kids away.
so when he got the chance he would mess with them at the door.
my favorite question he asked 2 sisters when they came.. "if the bible says a wife is to give her husband his due, then do you have relations with your husband because you love him or because the bible says to?".
Well, in the words of the Great James Whale " Invite them in for sex " ( I would like to point out I do not recommend this sort of immorality)
He had two women JWs come to his door, he asked them in " Im very interested" as soon as they were inside he stripped off completely naked - and reports they couldn't get out of there fast enough - and they haven't been back since.
One could demand to know about their child abuse policy, their support of the UN as an NGO, their subtle mistranslation of the Bible, their blood policies - modern day worshippers of Molech Jer. 32:35 and that, I can tell you is a personal favourite.
God bless !
man escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
I walked into my local refence library today - and I am sickened beyond Belief at what I found on the side in the entrance. For copyright reasons I won't scan it in and add it to this post, but check October 2007 Awake entitled " Keep your Children Safe! " and just inside it says " with so many sexual predators on the prowl , parents want to know how to protect their children. These articles may help" I've had a brief read , it talks about Jesus and Jehovahs protection like a lioness and all that nonsense , thankfully I have not noticed any mention of the love of the brothers as a safe haven and upon closer inspection ( that would really rub salt in the wound ) but interestingly, there is no caution to watch your children in the congregation it simply uses these last days ( 2 Tim) as proof we are living in the end.
Maybe I'm being reactionary ? But I really find this offensive. Is there nowhere lower for these clowns to stoop ?
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black
now that i have been out of the borg for a while, it has occurred to me that one of the biggest weapons they use to keep everyone indoctrinated is the watchtower study.. elders are told that the wt study is the primary way that the faithful and discreet slave feeds the flock of god today.
it is easily the most formulatic.. consider, the content is 100% controlled.
(i would also add, made up fiction.
You kidding ?? The Watchtower study rocks. Where else can we have Jehovah dispensing through his faithful and discreetful slave the truths from the bible ?
Seriously though. The WTS is pretty lousy, usless unintellectual nonsense - it doesn't scrape on the depths of the Bible. You have Witnesses who boast they have read the bible all the way through and I think, then why you still a Witness ? You got Prince (artist formely known as Prince) who is to almost cease touring to devote more time to study of the Bible. There are some great Bible reference books at our local library yet you are forbidden to read them by the Society because they are Apostate ( not written by their wise hands ) and not in agreement with revealed truths. I can tell you, they rock. However, you are prevented from studying the Bible without their aides, in case you are misled and fall into apostacy. No matter how well backed by scripture our arguments, they are not from Gods Channel of communication.
But, on the discussion of Gods Kingdom, they [ the refence books I adhered to earlier] got a little stuck where Jehovahs Witnesses give a full detailed description. Jobos do however struggle explaining Jesus words to the Pharisees " the kingdom is within you " which they can't explain away with any convincing arguments. If you read the Gnostic gospels, the Kingdom is in our hearts.
THE PLOT THICKENS............... ( or does it?)
man escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
A haven for scum. We could as I have previously said, rename Kingdom Halls ' Support group for Paedophiles'. But I guess he repented so that's alright. As one of the Watchtower letters says, if a child molester repents of his actions ' What a blessing that would be !' and then they go on about the lost shheep with the sheperd rehjoicing more over that one than over the 99 and all that bs.
Yet, a woman who doesn't scream when being raped (sometimes a little inconvenient plus all the terror ) is guilty of " being as good as dead anyway " ( Awake life story quote ) "ruining her relationship with God and the Congregation ", never receiving a resurrection , you couldn't make it up. I won't say more on this because it is wicked. I can't see a religion that boasts it is " the truth " denounces every other non Watchtower sales religion as false religion can be so cruel and brutal. How can you possibly have a four letter word like this thing ( he's not a man) giving advice on spiritual matters (what a joke ) counselling young teens on romance, courtship, appropriate behaviour and then answering at the meetings and giving talks ? Come on people !
I would almost as far as to say anyone who attends his hall is guilty as being almost complicit. As human beings we must take a stand against this Abhorent EVIL and boycott this wiocked religion. By attending, certainly at this particular hall, you may as well be saying such wickedness doesn't matter. A predator loose among our children, that's ok - Oh, you can't judge come the cries from the brainwashed witnesses, despite them judging all us non Jobos and rare meeting attenders as ungodly.
Yet, if you or I were to have sex with an adult consent woman who was not my/our/husband wife or even to have oral sex with my/our marriage mate we would really be in trouble with the elders and the Org and feeling Gods wrath.
They are sickening beyond words.
