Posts by StillGroggy

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What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness use?

by gordon d in

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what scripture will probably never be read in the kh or quoted in the watchtower?

for obvious reasons!

i'll start with honesty's contribution: .

StillGroggy

That's the gotcha kaytee, they use that scripture, but where do they have you check???

WT Library

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Still Groggy: Double Agent's Blog #002 - "Stocking up for the 'winter'"

by StillGroggy in

(taken from my blog) .

so someone on www.jehovahs-witness.com discussion board told me to expand my support group beyond jws so that my world won't fall apart when i leave.

this is probably the best advice anyone has ever given me, so i'm taking it.

OntheWayOut,

Good advice. Trust me, I've already thought about this. There won't be any secret meetings, just some email leading up to a "Hey, what do you think of the org" and "Hey, I'm getting announced this tuesday" Besides, we're still in the same social circle, so I can keep casual contact with her without a problem.

As for the DFed friend, that one's super risky so I won't be trying that until I'm DFed myself.

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Still Groggy: Double Agent's Blog #002 - "Stocking up for the 'winter'"

by StillGroggy in

(taken from my blog) .

so someone on www.jehovahs-witness.com discussion board told me to expand my support group beyond jws so that my world won't fall apart when i leave.

this is probably the best advice anyone has ever given me, so i'm taking it.

StillGroggy

(Taken from my blog)

So someone on www.jehovahs-witness.com discussion board told me to expand my support group beyond JWs so that my world won't fall apart when I leave. This is probably the best advice anyone has ever given me, so I'm taking it.

Actually, it's a bit easier for me than others since most of my family is not in the religion. So I will make sure to get closer to that family before the axe drops.

Before that, though, I'm getting in closer with some of my "bad association, independent thinker" old-friends in JW who I think might not shun me (at least secretely) when the big DF/DA comes. These are people that know me, and love me, true friends. Not fellow JWs who are just looking for "association", people who's concern for me goes beyond the JW rulebook. These are also people who I have history with.

So right now there are 4 of them.
1) My "R-rated movie watchin" best friend
2) My DFed female friend
3) My "super worldly" friend who's dating a non-witness
4) My other "super worldly" female friend I lost touch with

Aside from the first person, the rest on the list have been/will be a challenge to reestablish friendship with without blowing cover. After all, they're either DFed or "marked" bad associates. (For those who don't know, people who march to the beat of their own drum in JW are "marked" as bad association, and shunned, although to a lesser extent as disfellowshipped people)

1) I've been trying to through little things at my R-rated movie watchin best friend like about myspace for example. I said "You know, I think they just like to demonize anything that's popular" he agreed. I took that as a good sign.

2) I searched, emailed, text messaged my DFed female friend to no avail. I think even if she heard from me, she'd shun ME and has probably written me off. Im gonna have to leave her for last, pay for one of those find a person things on the internet, and leave a letter in her door. All this most likely after my exit

3) I've had a hard time tracking down my super worldly dating a non-witness friend, but I'm not alarmed yet. I'll keep calling and leaving messages, maybe an email telling him that "I Don't Care and I Don't Judge"
I expect he's taking A LOT of heat for this and might be shunning JWs ahead of time to avoid being harrassed about it

4) My super-worldy female friend I lost touch with. I was able to get through to her after about a month through email and txt messages. I think she felt snubbed by me since I ignored her a bit since I got married. We were sortoff an item at one point and well, you know. None of this matters anymore to me. What matters is that she's known me for 6 years and is quite possibly a double agent herself. She's definitely one of the "bad" witnesses. An eccentric, independent thinker.

These people are gonna be my lifeblood when the ship goes down. Thank GOD for my family being there too. they'll understand but do to my JW "stay away during holiday time" I'm not so close to them. (really sad)

So Im stocking up friendship for the winter of my exiting the WT. Wish me the best...

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Still Groggy: Double Agent's Blog #001 - "Pressure Building"

by StillGroggy in

(copied from my blog) .

anyone who's seen my posts on jwd knows that im an active jw whos married in the religion.

i recently started leaning my "family study" with my wife to a more free-thinking, personal researching mode.

StillGroggy

Im a hot water kind of guy. Im seeing this ending in a messy tragedy, but Im feeling pessimistic right now.

Thank you all for your thoughts.

SG

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Did You Ever Get Done In By Hearsay???

by minimus in

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friends

were you ever talked to by elders or charged with something because of hearsay??

?

StillGroggy

oh yeah... A buddy of mine was in a judicial commitee and he decided to imply something about my fiance and I's courtship. So when Me and my fiance arrive at our new congregation we're greeted with a meeting with the elders. I was furious and demanded to know what exactly he said (Which of course they won't tell you, you can't fight what you can't see). We challenged it and they went back to my "buddy" who recanted.

However, in the 6 months of back and forth "red-tape" we were treated like crap by the elders and I couldn't have any privileges, and they didn't let us have our wedding in the KH. (a big shame for dubs)

Evidently my witness buddy was looking up my video rentals at his job at blockbuster too, cuz they threw that at me too. I guess somebody was offended by my pg-13s.

This religion is bullshit.

Looking back I would've been better off if I got DFed. I probably would've been dissillusioned and been on here with yall instead of "waiting on jehoopla"

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Still Groggy: Double Agent's Blog #001 - "Pressure Building"

by StillGroggy in

(copied from my blog) .

anyone who's seen my posts on jwd knows that im an active jw whos married in the religion.

i recently started leaning my "family study" with my wife to a more free-thinking, personal researching mode.

StillGroggy

OnTheWayOut,

great advice. I won't be caving on the conscience matters any time soon. I enjoy POV murder simulation (gaming) too much to stop now. jk.

Um, do I feel better about it? Not yet, the things she said about me really bothered me, and I feel like the issues are still there, just under the surface.

So now I just feel sick to my stomache all the time. I've also considered blowing my cover, laying out all my problems with the org. Just jumping off, you know!

Question? how do you tell her about the news stuff without telling her you got it from apostates?

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Reply from a jw apologist

by dedpoet in

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i was on my website http://beehive.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/formerjws.

earlier, and came across this guestbook entry:.

if they are the truth you are speaking .

StillGroggy

send em all to me!

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What were you praying about before you left the JWs?

by MegaDude in

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friends

i was earnestly praying to serve jehovah and give him my all.. in short order i found i was heading toward the unthinkable.

i was on my way out of the watchtower and the only life i had ever known.

pretty ironic.

StillGroggy

gay pride, have you seen this thread?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/123637/1.ashx

Letsee, what have I been praying about lately? God, if you exist, help me not compromise"

ironic, no?

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I would love to hear from anyone who grew up in the truth and is gay

by Ragnarökkr in

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friends

hi.. after lurking for a number of months i have decided to join in and hopefully connect with a few people who will know what it has been like to grow up as me.

i left the truth a number of years ago for two reasons, one of which was my sexuality, which i knew to be unacceptable to my brothers and sisters.

since then i have alone in my isolation, hopefully through this site i can rectify that.

StillGroggy

A guy I used to know in JW is gay, but he's sortoff crazy so we don't talk anymore. But I know he had a really hard time, when the elders in his hall found out, they grilled him on the gamut of sexual questions including (Brace yourself) - Do you ever think about animals? - Do you ever think about children? I was like WTF??? Do they really equate homosexuality with that stuff. come on! So they treated and continue to treat him like garbage for something he can't help. BTW, do you still think it's "the truth?"

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Still Groggy: Double Agent's Blog #001 - "Pressure Building"

by StillGroggy in

(copied from my blog) .

anyone who's seen my posts on jwd knows that im an active jw whos married in the religion.

i recently started leaning my "family study" with my wife to a more free-thinking, personal researching mode.

StillGroggy

what's feminine indictment??? I don't know that and I'm one of the "bad dubs" that went to college! lol

Most of the facecrime occurs when i hear stuff that I know is BS and I have to keep from cringing or laughing. Usually during public talk or in service.