ermm, yeah my study yelled at me once for having difficulty with the questions, and i left the room crying. she never apologzed. the woman was a cranky old bird who sent rumours all around the hall about various things she assumed was the fault of my family, but my mom never told her off like she deserved.
another time, when i was fading out of meeting attendance an elder wanted to talk to me about it intimately in front of everyone but i turned away ...he grabbed my arm HARD and pulled me to him. i gave him a dirty look the entire time he was talking to me. such an a-hole.
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Did An Elder or "Brother" or "Sister" Ever Lose It With You???
by minimus insome persons are tempestous.
they may fly off the handle just like that!.
have you ever experienced a witness who just "lost it" with you??
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Knocking forum is now open on PBS website
by Jourles inhere we go folks.
a newly opened forum for knocking is now open on pbs's website.
let's not let the jw's overrun this with crap.
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*bump ... :)
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i'm new - help me
by donnalee ini originally began my communications thorugh freeminds which i found thru google - one of the writers for freeminds suggested this forum.
i hope that i will find some ansers thru you.
below are some of the questions that i have.. .
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"this is really, really sad for me to hear. not just becasue it affects me, but becasue it is such a false way to be especially for a group of people who claim that they have found the "TRUTH""
they are no different than any other group of people, ...because people are really all the same where ever you go (coming to that realization helped me realize that it was a cult). some are sincere and some insincere. some will help you and others will harm you. JW's teach that they are different from the world they live in because of the love they show, but the love they show is in a lot of cases nothing more than a handshake and a how-do-you-do to every new face that shows up for the sunday morning talk. real love is shown only to friends (no, just because they refer to all JW's as 'the friends' doesn't mean they give a damn whether their mom is sick in the hospital) ... once you figure out that real love is only between real friends you will see that this is no different than the behavoir of those they call "worldly" people ...which is the height of arrogance.
"I can "feel" that my b/f had mixed feelings (mainly physical...sexual, i believe), but the organization pushed him forward. i had a nice time visiting w/the group of jws who whom my b/f associates which confuses me. coming onto this supprot forum has helped me tremendously, yet sometimes i feel that i am hopeless. i continue to call him even tho he has made it clear that we CANNOT be a couple. everytime that i call him, i just want him to know that there is a non-jw who thinks about him. is ths so bad? what do u think he thinks of me?? a loser, perhaps? desparate, perhaps??"
if he allowed himself to become estranged from you, someone who truly cares for him, by exhanging that for the topical pleasantries of the witnesses, failed to see the doctrinal red flags upon attending meetings at the kingdom hall, and then continues to lead you on in a way by saying it was your decision not his ...then it is him with the serious issues here, not you. if you are going to cut your losses then do so by having a REAL conversation with him about EVERYTHING you are thinking. don't hold any punches.
"how do u know all of this?"
i was raised in the faith, remaing in it for about ...17 years, and found my way out the hard way. my family is still practicing.
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i'm new - help me
by donnalee ini originally began my communications thorugh freeminds which i found thru google - one of the writers for freeminds suggested this forum.
i hope that i will find some ansers thru you.
below are some of the questions that i have.. .
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Sorry for the formatting… I can never figure it out.
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i'm new - help me
by donnalee ini originally began my communications thorugh freeminds which i found thru google - one of the writers for freeminds suggested this forum.
i hope that i will find some ansers thru you.
below are some of the questions that i have.. .
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hi donna :) ... i'll see if i can answer some of your questions. "is it fair to say that jws are kind to you becasue they want your fellowship? " The only reason a JW would keep up a frriendship with an unbeliever would be with the hope of indoctrinating them. They are kind to you because they are selling the organization to you with smiles and polite conversation. It's something commonly referred to as the 'love bomb'. "do congregations exist that except others for their beliefs? " NO. You will find out that if you don't eventually become one of them, thinking, dressing, speaking exactly like them then the "friends" you made will show you their true motivaiton. you will be dropped like a hot potato. The only business a witness has with unbelievers is converting them. If you will not be converted then you will be seen as a waste of their time. there is no real love. Having different beliefs is nothing short of heresy in JW terms. "am i stereotping or being paranoid beleiving thta they are interacting wiht me only for the benefit of helping me to find the "truth"???? " you are absolutely 100% correct. "all 6 of the individuals were funny, enjoyable and kind. why is converting me SO important for them? " because it's the only reason they are bothering to talk to you. because it is the sole purpose of their lives as JW's. "does it guarentee their salvation?? do jws have friends who are not jws? " yes, and again, JWs only associate as friends with JWs. i don't have the time to answer the rest, but there are many here who will ;)
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AWESOME! New Article on Blood and Canadian Sextuplets
by V inethicist says b.c.
blood feud may save children and jehovah's witness parents.
published: thursday, february 1, 2007 | 8:46 pm et.
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you cannot draw a line between an adult refusing treatment and a newborn infant because the babies cannot decide for themselves, so we come to the conclusion that someone must decide for them. either: A - doctors act to save the child's life in the only way they can or: B - cult member parents decide to refuse treatment based on flawed doctrine and their children die. what they feel about it doesn't matter two ticks. life is more important than offending their sensibilities. getting hypothetical about it and saying what if, what if, what if is going beyond what the reality of the situation is. it is useless and an exaggeration. either the children die or live. the decision was made to give them life... sounds good to me.
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Been in an longdistance relationship with a married woman
by SWolf ini have a situation that i need help with....2 1/2 yrs ago i met a woman online she is 20 yrs older then me 41 now as i am 23...i fell in love with her and i never have been in a long relationship.
i know she is married but very unhappy...we been having a long distance affair for 2 1/2 years and i love her more then anything in this world...i have made her very happy and just the other day she feels trapped knowing she will be destroyed...i did not know what jw's were so i have been going to learn so i could understand her.
i need help scriptures anything that i can use to help her leave her mentally abusive husband.
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You need to walk away from this. Everything about it stinks, so much so I can't even begin to iterate the ways, and you're just going to get your heart ripped out and fed to you.
You're 23 - barely starting your adult life. Count it a lesson learned and find someone else. Honestly, I mean this for your best...
this is true.
but if he does not at least try ...it will haunt him all the same.
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Been in an longdistance relationship with a married woman
by SWolf ini have a situation that i need help with....2 1/2 yrs ago i met a woman online she is 20 yrs older then me 41 now as i am 23...i fell in love with her and i never have been in a long relationship.
i know she is married but very unhappy...we been having a long distance affair for 2 1/2 years and i love her more then anything in this world...i have made her very happy and just the other day she feels trapped knowing she will be destroyed...i did not know what jw's were so i have been going to learn so i could understand her.
i need help scriptures anything that i can use to help her leave her mentally abusive husband.
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okay, first things first... if you're going to talk to a JW about their religion you have to understand it or at least know about it or you will be overwhelmed. it really is impossible to know what it's like to be one unless you've lived it, but the second best thing you can do is arm yourself with knowledge.
jwfacts.com is good. there are other sites but this is the only one i know of off-hand.
this is the thing, though, if she knows you've looked at 'apostate' sites (basically anyone who says anything bad about the jw faith) then she will shut her brain off and won't listen. all the love in the world won't make her listen. you have to be smart how you say it.
whenever she starts talking about her beliefs you need to pay close attention... carefully offer another view and drop a few facts you learned.
see how she reacts.
be very gentle at first...or you'll lose her. this is really dangerous...cause if she sees you as a threat to her faith then that is worse than a threat to her marriage in jw terms.
it might be a good idea to ask her how she feels about being a jehovahs witness and just get her to talk about it and feel easy about explaining things with you. i hope she hasn't tried to convert you. :p
learn all you can
ask questions
listen well
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The Tract Campaign - "False Religion"
by Honesty indo you feel left out because you aren't going door to door distributing kingdom news # 37?.
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hell no.
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Oh CRap!
by TheKings inan elder is at my house right now studying with my dad in the next room.
he can probably hear me typing now .
i got two crank calls in a row (the phone is right by the computer on the desk) ...then someone called a third time and i just picked up the phone and slammed it loudly.
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..and now knowing about the molestation thing with them...i'm getting really weirded out the way he's paying so much attention to my little sister right now. he's just gushing over her and telling her she's a good girl over and over.
muy creepy.