Looks like back then you couldn't defend yourself from a mob of 2000 attacking and burning the building you were in.
They locked up six of the 'victims' of the mob because two men IN the mob were wounded by gunshot pellets fired by the JWs.
Wouldn't this be considered self defense? Maybe that wasn't a defense back in 1940.
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Are Jehovah's witnesses violent?
by cultswatter inenjoy.
http://z32.zupload.com/file.php?filepath=22103.
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For those who were raised in "the truth"
by Hangin_on inhow many of you always felt like you would be killed at armageddon no matter what you did... it was never enough and your parents put a guilt trip on you?
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While I was terrified as a child of having to live through Armageddon, I don't remember being too afraid that I would not survive it.
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anti-witness site?
by darth frosty inwhat happened to that great site that was supposed to go up in febuary?
they made it seem like it was going to shake the wtb$ to its core, but i have not seen anything else about it.
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The link is in this thread -- www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/124776/1.ashx
It was up and running last night. I started looking at some of it. The content is excellent. I am concerned the presentation will scare some JWs away. It's kind of spooky weird. Younger ones will probably love it. -
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Remember how great the get-togethers were in the 1980's??
by PaNiCAtTaCk ini remembers skating parties at least once a month, volleyball at the park, get-togethers where everyone would play bible charades and sing kingdoms songs, going to the river to swim with the whole congregation after the sunday meeting, spending the afternoon at the lake eating watermelon and water skiing.
it was a great upbringing!
also, i dont want to leave out the strong feelings of eliteness that i had even as a child, of having the truth.
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Bonnie_Clyde, I had forgotten about the orchestra. I was in the Atlanta area during the50s & 60s. We (the orchestra) would practice every week at a brothers house and then play the songs at the circuit assemblies. I played the Cello. We got in trouble with the CO at one assembly because we practiced some more at the assembly instead of going out in service on Sat morning. Everyone seemed to really enjoy sitting listening to the music. Guess we may have kept some others from rushing out to service.
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Watchtower Letter on literature change dated Feb-9.2007!
by Atlantis injust in case some of the folks may have wanted this letter for their records.
at the bottom of this letter the watchtower states, "this new arrangement for publishing the watchtower will take effect in january 2008.. it is nice to know that the watchtower feels that armageddon can be delayed until then!.
please delete if already posted!.
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"the GB had "approved" this decision"
Moggy that's an interesting thought. I did not notice it before. You would think they would say 'the GB made the decision' - or 'Jehovah has inspired the GB to make the change.'
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Remember how great the get-togethers were in the 1980's??
by PaNiCAtTaCk ini remembers skating parties at least once a month, volleyball at the park, get-togethers where everyone would play bible charades and sing kingdoms songs, going to the river to swim with the whole congregation after the sunday meeting, spending the afternoon at the lake eating watermelon and water skiing.
it was a great upbringing!
also, i dont want to leave out the strong feelings of eliteness that i had even as a child, of having the truth.
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I was a teenager through the 60s. The JW kids were still allowed to have great parties w/ dancing. Oh, was there some wonderful songs for slow dancing then! My mom stayed at one as a chaperone and fussed at me on the way home for dancing too close to a gorgeous new brother that had moved into the area. (It was worth the fuss. :)
Some of the cooler JW adults had get togethers for the teenagers. They would have a pool table and music in the rec room in their basements. You could usually count on a sip of beer or mixed drink. There was always a pretty good crowd at the ones I went to.
Eventually in the later 60s some of the parties started getting a little too wild. I missed the finale where several kids got in trouble & they wouldn't let us have any more parties.
Seems like we went to a lot of weddings during the 60s and 70s. It was fun to dress up in long evening dresses.
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does the ability to pray come naturally??
by lostyettobefound inhey guys as you can see i am still new and still keen to hear other peoples points of view on my issues.
anyway i always wondered because i have friends who are pentecostals who seem to have this amazing ability to pray and they feel like they are talking to god.
i never ever felt like i was communicating with someone when i prayed it always seemed futile and it always seemed like a repetition of someone elses prayer.
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It doesn't come naturally to me. I always thought something must be wrong with me. I did try to pray when I was young but it just felt weird - and just so silly.
Dad always prayed for the family at every meal but it was just something he did - it held no meaning to me. Perhaps it was all the beatings I received from my mother at the KH growing up - maybe it hardened my heart instead of making me love Jehovah.
One of my sisters is a very sweet brainwashed / mind controlled JW. She prays silently before every meal no matter where she is. It makes me uncomfortable and I have to remember to be quiet for a minute while she does.
There have been a few times in the last years when I was traveling alone that I felt maybe someone was watching out for me. Like when I just missed a deadly accident or an ugly storm was all around me but stayed away until I could get into a hotel. I did feel someone might be watching out for me for some reason. I did silently thank whoever might be out there/ up there protecting me - just in case they were listening and were really there. -
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This Greber 'coverup' is disgusting, Isn't it?
by AK - Jeff ini had proven to myself, with help from ray franz and others, that the 'truth' was not the 'truth' about three years back - so in most cases i have paid little attention to further proof.
once proven, always proven, right?.
then this week, i began to do a little research into the greber thing - i typed in greber watchtower to my google seach.. 465 hits - and started to read a few of the websites.
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Johannes Greber, John Thompson -- and don't forget C.J. Woodworth -- who wrote the commentary on Revelation in the 1917 book The Finished Mystery. See www.geocities.com/Heartland/2919/200d.html
Woodworth is quoted as saying, "and I came directly under the influence of evil spirits, so much so that for three days I was as completely under demonical control as was Mrs. Eddy when she wrote 'Science and Health.'"
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2006 CD ROM
by stillajwexelder inwell i have the new 2006 cd rom and have installed it.
it comes with a new program - wt reader - but wait for this - it takes 1 gigabyte of hard disk storage space for hard drive install.
now this can be cut down by running direct from cd -rom.
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Does the CD have just publications from 2006 or does it include all the publications for the last several years?
I was curious about the Awake publication numbers since they went to 1 per month. Like for instance, compare the number printed the last couple issues of 2005 when there were 2 per month and then the numbers for the first ones in 2006 after the change.
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Any Josh Groban fans out there?
by exwitless inlittle drummer boy can attest to my fan-hood-ness:.
i'm headed to his concert in chicago next weekend.
can't wait!
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I saw that clip of him singing with Celine Dion and I could see the amazed look on her face as she realized how good he is.
The first time I saw him was on the show w/ Ally McBeal (I don't remember if that was the name of the show of just of the main character). He played a geek teenager that didn't have a date to the prom and Ally went as his date. He ended up on stage and sang a song at the prom. It gave me goose bumps!
I fell in love that first time I heard him. I have his 3 CDs. To me the first one is best.